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Old 06-15-2014, 07:28 PM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

The Sierra 100 grain 6.5mm HPFB is specifically designed for varmints. It can be driven very fast and is flat over 400 yards. It has far less wind drift than anything you shoot vamints with in 223 or 243/6mm. I used a 30/06 w/ 125grain SpFB in the past on varmints so I could become proficient with a single rifle.

Your friend is undecided and not engaged in a rational search. He just wants the flavor of the week. 6.5 mm cartridges would be fine for what he wants. 243/6mm is pretty small for elk and unsuitable for elk at long range.

A better choice would be something for the middle of his intended game, like a 6.5 mm, and make it work up and down the game-size scale than to pick something for the small stuff and hope to push itup to the size required for LR elk. This is a fools errand. Better to pick something for the top of the scale, long range elk size game, and load it all the way down.

The 30/06 is a fine choice but for me the 6.5-285 Norma or 7mm RemMag would be much better. The 6.5-284 is rocking the shooting world right now and that's because it does what your friend wants. He needs a chill pill and a bagel.

Just my opinion.....

KB
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:00 PM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

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The 30/06 is a fine choice but for me the 6.5-285 Norma or 7mm RemMag would be much better. The 6.5-284 is rocking the shooting world right now and that's because it does what your friend wants. He needs a chill pill and a bagel.
Just my opinion.....
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hahaha. Totally agree... chill pill and a bagel on order. All this talking and I want a 6.5-284 now.
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:02 AM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

I would like a chill pill and a bagel to go, please
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Old 08-15-2014, 09:57 AM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

My Friend has changed his tune.........................last week he asked me what recomendations I might have that would get his Savage 111 from 1.5" Groups at 100 to less than .5 at 300Yds.............................

I was Just stood there and looked at him
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Old 09-01-2014, 01:09 PM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

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My Friend has changed his tune.........................last week he asked me what recomendations I might have that would get his Savage 111 from 1.5" Groups at 100 to less than .5 at 300Yds.............................

I was Just stood there and looked at him
Your friend sounds to me like he needs to take up golf, it doesn't sound like he will get much enjoyment from LR shooting.

Have you tried getting him to shoot a different rifle of known accuracy? My SIL was convinced that a .270 was not very accurate until he shot mine.
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Old 09-01-2014, 01:14 PM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

He is coming around, its just that he wants the accuracy with out paying the price.

I was at the Range Saturday and this guy was shooting next to me. He had just purchased a new 300 Win Mag. I asked if he had a Deer tag. He said yes, and that last year he missed a huge buck at 350 yds with his 30-06. He told me that the 30-06 is not good past 400yds and that is way he got the 300 WM.............Lots and lots of Mis information out there
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:26 AM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

Seems there are a lot of good calibers being mentioned and not yet mentioned.

If you are going to hunt only up to deer sized game or have a dedicated deer rifle and you are fixated on a long action as evidenced by your buddies preference for .270 and .30-06, might I recommend a .25-06? It's an excellent cartridge and available in a variety of OTC factory loadings, premium and otherwise, as well as tons of reloading components to select from.

I just took two antelope in Wyoming last week with my Weatherby Vanguard S2 (incredible rifle) in .25-06. the first was at 289 yards in a stiff 10 MPH crosswind and the second was at 410. Both one shot, dead right there, kills using Barnes TTSX 100 Gr. at around 3350 FPS.

It's an easy round to handle for almost any shooter except for maybe the very smallest of ladies or children as well.

Just my $.02

I realize 289 and 410 are not the longest of shots but, considering my hunting career thus far, the 410 is by far my longest! I grew up hunting the piney woods of East Texas then Elk hunted the Olympic Peninsula rain forests for Roosevelts and blacktails, thick cover and close shots were always the norm.
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