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Old 06-10-2014, 08:55 AM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

He shoots a new Savage 111

Still wants to find a load that will give him under 1" at 200 yds.............

he is still convinced that if he had purchased the same rifle with a 24" Barrel it would be shooting sub .5 at 100.......................its the barrel length that is causing it to shoot so poorly.............

Im pulling my hair out each time I talk to him..........
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:14 AM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

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He shoots a new Savage 111

Still wants to find a load that will give him under 1" at 200 yds.............

he is still convinced that if he had purchased the same rifle with a 24" Barrel it would be shooting sub .5 at 100.......................its the barrel length that is causing it to shoot so poorly.............

Im pulling my hair out each time I talk to him..........
he's worse than my wife, lol. He got a good rifle but less than a inch at 200yrds. Is like chasing rainbows especially with a bone stock rifle, if he can get 1inch at 200 is great, also the shorter barrel can be more accurate because its stiffer less harmonics...
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:01 AM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

I have a Savage LRH in 300 WSM that is stock and shoots no greater than 1 inch groups at 300 yards. When I am on I have been able to shoot 3/4 inch groups at that distance. I can tell you that it is not me cause my son shot it this past week and was able to repeat the same. This is my first Savage and I am extremely please with it.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:13 AM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

From what you have written, it sounds like your friend doesn't really want your advice, but rather your confirmation about a choice he has already made. Savages tend to be good shooters out of the box. I would tinker with his rifle a little more.

It's not that the 30-06 is a 'bad choice' for a deer rifle. Quite the contrary. But if long distance shooting might be in his future at all, there are a lot of better caliber choices out there. Most have already been mentioned.
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Old 06-14-2014, 08:30 PM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

Pull that rife apart, do a bedding job that free floats the barrel (not the dollar bill crap, but a gap that will take two or three business cards all the way to the barrel nut) and keep the screws torqued equally. If he has an accutrigger and likes it, fine, if not put in a rifle basix SAV2. If he doesn't reload, it is time to start, as he soon will have spent enough money to buy the tools. Loads tuned to the individual rifle will make a huge difference.
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:13 AM
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Re: First time Long Range Rifle

My friend has changed his mind again and feels the for long Range shooting the best caliber going is the .243 I mentioned the 6.5's ..............but he wont talk about them because he keeps telling me that for Varmints, Deer, and Elk the .243 is the best one out there................I suggested he get an Ackley...............No! I keeped telling him that the .243 is going to be way to small for Elk.............at long range. He is convinced that it is good out to 800yds...........................I told him that he should go bigger maybe like the .280 Ackley or the 7mm WSM.................he told me that would be crazy using one of those for Ground Squirrels. He want ONLY one Rifle for everything........................................

I pulled all my hair out.........................
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:29 PM
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My friend has changed his mind again and feels the for long Range shooting the best caliber going is the .243 I mentioned the 6.5's ..............but he wont talk about them because he keeps telling me that for Varmints, Deer, and Elk the .243 is the best one out there................I suggested he get an Ackley...............No! I keeped telling him that the .243 is going to be way to small for Elk.............at long range. He is convinced that it is good out to 800yds...........................I told him that he should go bigger maybe like the .280 Ackley or the 7mm WSM.................he told me that would be crazy using one of those for Ground Squirrels. He want ONLY one Rifle for everything........................................

I pulled all my hair out.........................
well I would tell your friend, hope you like tracking and walking
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