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Old 02-06-2010, 12:22 AM
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Re: A few questions

Rates of twist by gun manufacturer.

308 Winchester 10" twist
Colt; J.C. Higgins 51-L; Mannlicher Shoenauer; Marlin 455; Musketeer; Remington 722, 740, 742, 760, 700, 40-XB, 788, 660, 600, 7400, 7600, Four, Six, Seven; Schultz & Larsen; Ruger; Wichita; Savage 99, 110, 112, 116 (present); Weatherby Vanguard; Steyr SSG-PIV; Thompson/Centre Rifle

308 Winchester 11" twist
Blaser; Sako 75 / 85

308 Winchester 12" twist
Browning 81 BLR, BAR Mark II, A-Bolt II; Colt; FN; High Standard; J.C. Higgins 50, 51, 51-L; Harrington & Richardson 300, 308; Husqvarna; Mossberg 800; Savage 99, 100, 110, 2400; Sako Bolt Action and Lever Action; Winchester 70, 88, 670, 770; Steyr SSG-PI, PII, PIII; Stevens 110, 100; Remington 700, 40-XC.; Springfield Armory M1A

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Old 02-06-2010, 11:03 AM
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Go with either the 1:10 or 1:12. The 1:12 will stabilize up to 190grn bullet (depending on bullet design). Savage offers some really good rifles for this very situation. Custom accuracy at a production price. You should look at the Mil/LEO line and the 12 series rifles.

Savage Arms Firearms > 12 FVSS Best in price and design for starting LR guys IMHO.

Savage Arms Firearms > 12 VLP DBM Own one and it is a shooter.

Savage Arms Firearms > 12 BVSS Little less expensive with internal mag.

Savage Arms Firearms > 11 Long Range Hunter This should be awesome in either caliber.

Savage Arms Firearms > 10 FP The most affordable of the Mil/LEO line. They shoot very well for out of the box.

If you can afford to do so, buying an aftermarket stock for any of the synthetics should be considered. This is not just for Savage, but for all lines. Any company that sells a budget varmint/tactical rifle don't use the best stocks they offer. They work and are accurate, but can be improved. The only exception to this suggestion is the Savage 11 Long Range Hunter because it uses the Accu-Stock system.

You may want to look at the Howa M1500 Line with the Hogue Over Molded stocks. Those things shoot lights out after a little trigger tweaking. I am a huge Savage fan, but have used a the Howa in a 25-06. Thing was very accurate.

Hope this helps,
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Liltank, on the 12 VLP DBM the forend almost looks like a beaver tail. I see where you mentioned you have one and was wondering is it a beaver tail or what?
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Liltank, on the 12 VLP DBM the forend almost looks like a beaver tail. I see where you mentioned you have one and was wondering is it a beaver tail or what?

It's not a true triangular type beaver tail. It is wider than a normal forearm, maybe more like a tactical type of a forearm. It is about 2.5" wide.

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I like beaver tails, sounds like it is a little similar and at 2.5" wide...that's sweat. I think I'm going to have to go take a look at one. Thanks for responding.
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I like beaver tails, sounds like it is a little similar and at 2.5" wide...that's sweat. I think I'm going to have to go take a look at one. Thanks for responding.

It is a really nice rifle. I've really enjoyed mine.

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Re: A few questions

I would say skip the .308 and get a .300 WM or a .300 rum or if your recoil sensitive a 7 rem . .308 is fine for starting out but if money is tight the bigger rounds won't leave you wanting when your ready to step it up and go farther . Plus more kenetic energy in case you don't make a good first round hit will help when shooting at living things.
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