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Old 10-18-2005, 05:43 AM
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Do I have a Longe Range Gun?

I have a Browning A-Bolt .300 Mag with Boss and 5x15x50 B&amp;L scope. I have it sighted with Barnes TSX 168gr in front of 74.9gr of Reloader 22. It is sighted dead on at 300yd. What do y'all consider long range. I have been trying to find target knobs to no avail. I checked Stoney Point but they don't have any. <font color="blue"> </font> <font color="blue"> </font>
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:48 AM
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Re: Do I have a Longe Range Gun?

yep, ya do. And welcome, glad to associate you.

Figuring deer sized things and smaller you're good for as far as you can hit it where you wish with that load.

I'd go up a bit in bullet weight for larger than deer animals.

Go through all of the processes so that you know your Point of Impact from about 200 to say 900 yds. I say 900 yds as Goodgrouper shot a cow elk last year, in the shoulder at 820 with about the same outfit. Do a search and read about it.

Longrange for me is anything over 500yds with an upper limit of about 700. That's only because I can't shoot and my rifle is for squat, and I have no good bullets. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:22 AM
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Re: Do I have a Longe Range Gun?

Long range is a matter of personal opinion, equipment, ability level, and conditions. I have shot in conditions where 300 yards was long range. If your rifle is capable, and if you are capable, then yes you have a long range outfit.

I have been meaning to start my own thread about what constitutes long range and the ethics associated with shooting at great distances. I haven't quite figured out how to go about starting the thread without being thought a troll, or at the minimum a trouble maker, lol. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:31 AM
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Re: Do I have a Longe Range Gun?

Ankeny

Your first statement sums it up. It is up to each shooter to determine what is long range and what is ethical.



This is what you agreed to before you were allowed to become a member of the site.

"This board was created for the expressed purpose of discussing the methods, equipment and techniques of Long Range Hunting without the burden of discussing or debating ethics. Although we all individually have ethics and limitations on what we consider correct WE DO NOT discuss nor will we tolerate discussions of ethics on this site. "

Some stones are better left unturned and some dogs are better left sleeping. The forum is a great place because there is a minimum of name calling and insult trading.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:18 AM
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Re: Do I have a Longe Range Gun?

WWWIIllllbbbbuuurr.........I am hunting over about 500 acres of new cut that this about 5' high. I love to settle in about 40' up and glass that cut. I have killed several at over 300 yards and I hope to do so again this year. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 10-18-2005, 11:20 AM
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Re: Do I have a Longe Range Gun?

Ankeny,
I also bellieve that your initial statement covers the reality of long range shooting that this site is intended to support and explore. Why no ethics - because we are not here to preach-about or convert or defend our enjoyment of shooting out to the limits of our gear and personal abilities. We are here to fine-tune this ability, to add an extra hundred yards of confidence and to share a lot of great shooting info. I completely agree with your statement that long range shooting varies continually with external conditions.

Most hunters stay within the law, most hunters don't like wounding, most hunters try to place their bullets with lethal first-shot accuracy. Those are givens - period.
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Old 10-18-2005, 12:16 PM
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Re: Do I have a Longe Range Gun?

Went to my favorite cut block on the weekend. Usually weather cooperates. Not that day. Grass is flattened, trees rocking and crashing. Yes, that would be a bit windy. Under those conditions, the 425yds to the treeline would have been a very tricky shot. When conditions are ideal, 900yds is not that far at all.

Distance is limited by your skill/conditions - the ability to put a bullet where you want when you want, THE FIRST TIME. Most rifles can be tuned to shoot min of deer way out there. Most shooters can't.

So practise, practise, practise to find out what you can and cannot do. There really is no min or max. Just what you feel is right.

To know if your rifle/load is up to the task, shoot at a variety of distances you range. I practise onf 'moa' sized rocks. See it, range it, dial up, dope, shoot. If you hit, that's good, if you missed figure out why. Repeat, many many times. You will quickly see how far out before misses come all to often and adjustments don't seem to matter. You have reached the mechanical limits of you and that rifle. Tune, practise/learn more, build a better rifle if need be.

Took a couple of very experienced hunters and pretty decent shooters out for a LR demo. Neither had practised beyond 500yds but had taken game there. They had the 'ethics' to know they were on shakey ground.

A bit of basics then they started launching lead. Once they got over the 'fear' of shooting further, the possibilities came through.

The highlight was a 940yds one shot one hit on a 10" boulder. Yes, the grins were pretty wide.

With properly tuned rifles, distance (at least those that can be readily ranged) is no big deal. Your ability to dope wind and conditions are the limiting factor.

Buy a good range finder (Leica or Elite 1500), get a scope with turrents (Nikon Buckmaster SF with mil dot 4X14 is a best buy or any Elite 4200 /Nikon Monarch target scope), work up the best ammo you can (rifle and load must shoot consistently sub MOA as far as you want to go). Get out there and find your limits through practising.

You have a lot of potential in that rifle.

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