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Old 07-07-2005, 09:33 PM
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Re: Common Question

Is this supposed to be a off the shelf factory rifle?

If not, I'd consider buying a used 700 long action and have a new barrel chambered in 280Ackley. That's not very complicated.

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Old 07-08-2005, 09:30 AM
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Paulinus I think I would take a hard look at a 264 WIN Mag over a 257 Weatherby. You can shoot anything from a 90 grain to a 160 grain and the BC's will be very high. Infact a 140gr bullet would have plenty of bc and weight for shooting 600 yards probably more like a 1000 yards with the velocity you will get with it. Recoil will be about the same as a 257 Weatherby and brass will be a lot cheaper.
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Old 07-20-2005, 09:59 PM
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Re: Common Question

Thanks for the responses. I have been thinking in terms of factory rifles and ammo. While I have been deer hunting for 45 years, I do not have any experience with wildcat offerings. Maybe someone can point me to a good summary of the available wildcats. For example I have not idea what a 257 Allen mag or the 280 Ackley mentioned above are or their ballistic performance. Now the 264 Win mag. was (may still be) a factory load, but I have not seen a rifle chamber in it.
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:04 PM
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I would not recommend my 257 Allen Mag for someones first shot at a wildcat round. Its not hard to load for but its as extreme as it gets in a 257 caliber round.

These are three of the 257 Allen Magnums flanked by two standard 25-06 rounds.

Performance wise, near 4100 fps with a 100 gr bullet, +3300 fps with a 156 gr Ultra Low Drag bullet.

The 280 AI is a far more practical wildcat to get started with. Nothing more then the 280 REM with a sharper shoulder angle and shoulder diameter increased. You can simply shoot factory 280 Rem ammo in the 280 AI rifle to form brass and your ready to roll.

Forming the 257 AM is a bit more complicated as its based off the 338 RUM case.

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Old 07-21-2005, 06:53 PM
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When I was in Oberlin KS shooting P'Dogs the farmer was telling us that the 25-06 was the weapon of choice around there and was good to 500 yards if you did your part. I started looking for one and ran into a 257 Wby for a great price and have been very pleased with it, except for the cost of factory ammo.

I found that it liked the 115 grain Barnes X-bullets the best and Weatherby lists their retained energy at 1359 ft*lb at 500 yards - way more than any deer needs to convince it to quit living! (Sierra put a more conservative 1100 ft*lbs out for their 117 grain boat tail at 600 yards, but still more than enough) I found that on a realitvly calm day I was hitting a clay pigion about 1/2 of the time at 710 yards, again good enough to convince a deer to give up. I feel very comfortable out to 600 yards and if the wind was calm I wouldn't pass on an 800 yards shot.

No matter what you choose, good luck and remember to practice, especially in the wind. The wind is a bigger problem than distance.
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Old 07-22-2005, 10:29 PM
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Thanks for the responses. I have purchased a new Weatherby Big Game Master in .257 Wby. The dealer had a 25-06, but made me a real deal on the Weatherby.
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