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Old 07-07-2005, 12:58 PM
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OK, I have not been a LRH, but this forum may be of assistance. I am faced with purchasing a new general purpose for moderate range deer (whitetail and mule) hunting (out to no more than 600 yards)in central Kansas. Based on expereince and research/conversations the choices have narrowed to the old standby .270 Winchester or .257 Weatherby. Any observations on these choices?

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Old 07-07-2005, 03:59 PM
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Re: Common Question

Personally, I'm not too big on either one for biggame @ 600 yards. I'd much prefer a 7mm mag. Lots of high BC bullets and enough horsepower to get them up to reasonable speed for dealing with the wind. Terminal performance would be more reliable too.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:42 PM
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Re: Common Question

I have a 300 Win mag for over 400 yards, but I am looking for a more general purpose rifle which would normally be used for 150 to 400, but it would be nice to be able to reach out to 600 if necessary. Thanks,
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:14 PM
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Re: Common Question

Paulinus,

If we were talking 400 yards I would say take your pic but when you add the extra 200 yards to extend things to 600 yards neither is really a great choice for game the size of some of your Kansas Whitetails and Mulies which can get pretty large.

This is in reguards to conventional factory rifles mind you.

If you took a 257 Wby Mag and chambered it in a 1-7" twist barrel and used something like the 156 gr ULD RBBT loaded to 2800 to 2900 fps or so, it would certainly be a potent deer round out to 600 yards. But this is a bullet with a BC in the +.800 range.

Factory rifles can not shoot these and common commerical 257 bullets are not really up to 600 yard shooting at big game.

THe 270 Win, while a great round is just not to the performance level to consistantly and reliably harvest game at these max ranges.

Now someone or perhaps alot of people out there will say this is plenty of gun but with so many other factory offered rounds out there that are better performing, why limit yourself with the standard 270 Win.

I see them both as 400 yard deer rounds but thats just my opinion. The 257 WBy factory offerings lack the bullets for the job, the 270 Win is limited in horsepower.

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Old 07-07-2005, 05:27 PM
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Thanks Fiftydriver. It makes sense. I know you produce custom rifles, but what would you recommend in a non-custom rifle? I am attempting to stay under $1000.
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Old 07-07-2005, 06:20 PM
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A 300win mag in an accurate rifle is certainly adequate for whitetail size game animals out to 600 yards. Why not spend the $1,000 on a custom barrel, action trueing and a bedding job?
If your 300win already shoots accurate enough than I'd spend the money on a short to medium range rifle. I've always been partial to the 7mm-08, but if you're already loading for the 300win then a .308 might be a better choice.

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Old 07-07-2005, 09:11 PM
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Re: Common Question

Paulinus,

If your looking to keep recoil levels down, I would look at a 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Rem Mag. Very easy to shoot and plenty of power for this range if the rifles are up to the challange.

For more performance, something long a 7mm STW would be hard to beat but with more recoil as well.

The 7mm RUM and 300 RUM are also top performers but with alot of recoil. Adding a muzzle brake and quality recoil pad really cuts the bite out of these big rounds.

An accurate 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag would be very hard to beat. Even the new 270 and 7mm WSM are great long range rounds for deer size game.

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