First off I am new to this site and just registered so if I ask any stupid questions that have already been answered than I am sorry?!
I bought myself a new Remington Model 710 chambered in .270win about 3 months ago at Bi-Mart for $330bucks with a scope, sling, and hard plastic case! Not, a bad price for a starter gun.
Now I know some of you are cringing, but I didn't have much money and my cousin had one chambered in 30-06 which was a tack driver at under 300yrds , plus I hadn't heard much about long range hunting.
I broke the gun in slowly cleaning every round for the first 10 then every 5 rds for the next 50 rds. The last 20 rds I shot where 130gr. Federal Sierra Gamekings, I was getting .5 to .75 inch groups at 100yds and 2.5in groups at 300yrds. Those where shot with my bi-pod and a sand bag. I know this is good, especially for a $330.00 gun.
So here is my question can I build an accurate 1,000 yard gun from this setup? Yes, I know the barrel isn't replaceable and the gun will only last so long , but I think it would be a good practice gun learning ballistics, and such for taking 1,000 yrd shots. My next rifle will be a .338 lupua which I will plan on spending much more money on!
Also, will this setup work for taking coyotes at 300-600yrds and should I use the gameking or the matchking for them?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Nathan,
It sounds and looks like you have made a good start. There aren't many that buy at the local Mart and then do a proper break-in. Good job!
There are plenty of 270 Win shooters around here, hopefully they will chime in.
Regarding bullets, I'd try to stick with those with the highest bc in the 135 or 140 grain range. You may also find that the Nosler Ballistic Tips may shoot very well. However, go for whatever shoots the best. Most importantly is to settle on a load and don't dink around so much with teh load but concentrate on the drop chart and harvesting things . Get used to clicking those turrets for those extended ranges and you'll soon learn how far you are good for.
You didn't indicate which primer, powder or case you are using. Higher velocities and longer case life are usually achieved with Winchester cases. Best accuracy is usually achieved with a non-magnum primer such as the CCI-200s.
About coyotes to 600yds: You'll be able to answer that yourself after you've worked up your drop chart to that distance.;) You have a pretty nifty looking and shooting rig there. Have fun!
I may be the slowest guy on the mountain . . . . but . . . . I'm on the mountain!
"can I build an accurate 1,000 yard gun from this setup?"
When most people say "build" a gun, they're talking about having the action trued (or starting with a custom action) and installing a custom barrel from one of the makers of fine target barrels, then maybe adding a nice trigger and bedding the thing in a custom stock.
You already know that your rifle isn't suitable for this. That's fine. So what?
Can you use your existing rifle to shoot to 300, 500, or 600 plus yards with reasonable game-taking accuracy? Probably yes. Your 2.5" 300 yard groups are testimony that the rifle has good accuracy capability just as it is.
I'd recommend you keep that rifle exactly as it is. Don't spend another dime on it. You may or may not want to mess with your load a bit - that doesn't cost much. Coyotes and deer are in serious trouble from that rifle if you do your part.
Then save your cash for a build. It's not cheap, but there are things you can do to hold down costs. Some ideas:
1. Look hard at Savage - their varmint weight rifles. A terrific bargain and very friendly to home gunsmithing. With a few tools you can even swap barrels on them yourself. They make models with a very nice laminated stock and a heavy barrel too. Very easy base to work from.
2. Look for a used Rem 700. Sometimes at pawn shops or gun shops you can find a great deal on a beat up old Rem 700. The actions are very easy for a smith to work with. I've bought good safe working Rem 700's for as little as $200 in recent years. For a real "build" you're going to get rid of everything except the action anyway.
3. Look for a lightly used 700 Sendero... These things are amazingly capable for a factory rifle. Or a 700 VS which is pretty much the same thing, but in a short action.
You've got a decent, basic rifle with which you can build your shooting skills, hunt a lot and just plain enjoy. It looks good and apparently works good too. No cringing here! Don't waste any money trying to turn it into something it's not and never will be. Use it as is, and save for what you really want. Just my input.
leave it alone and save your money for your next rifle.the one you are shooting now is plenty good for your first. my brother shoots one and has taken game to 600 with his. he was using 140 acubonds. What kind of scope is that on your rifle.
Thanks for your input! I'm glad I found this website, you all seem to be very nice people with no trashing which is always amazing to find on a online forum! I don't remember what the shell casing was on the SGK, I'll I know was they were off the shelf 130grain Federal Sierra GameKing. My cousin is reloading some rounds for me right now because I haven't bought reloading equipment yet, but soon! He is using the shells from the FSGK and loading Sierra GameKing Bullets starting at 41.0grains to 42.0grains of Varget powder and cci-200 primers. We found out it shot pretty good with 42.0grains but didn't like anymore so we are going to try a little less and see if that makes a difference. What do you think about Barns Triple Shock, or Sierra MatchKings?
Oh, and the scope mounted in the picture is a cheap Center-Point 4-16x40 scope, but I took it back because it was not adjusting properly and skipping clicks. So I have my 3-9x40 BSA Red Dot scope on my gun for now, it is cheap, but at least it holds zero consistently! I hope to be buying a new scope within the next month or two. Any idea's for semi-decent scopes under $200bucks let me know! Thanks Nathan,
Last edited by TacticalHits; 12-08-2007 at 04:48 PM.