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Old 06-28-2012, 06:49 PM
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Some great deer hunting and a january rut! I went to Leon, class of '86.
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:58 PM
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Some great deer hunting and a january rut! I went to Leon, class of '86.

Yep the deer in our part of quincy usually start to rut around the week before christmas or week after depending on the weather. The last 2 years we really havent had a good rut because its been so warm. I killed 2 deer before the rut even started a 10pt during muzzleloader and an 8pt the weekend after the 2nd season started. You got a couple years on me I graduated NFC 99.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:41 PM
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Have you guys actually ran some ballistics on the two cartridges in question? I'm not getting very much of a difference between the two mainly due the velocity the 25-06 will launch a 115+gr bullet in. I don't think a deer would know the difference!
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:05 AM
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I have not run the numbers as my laptop is dead. You are hinting I may need a slice of humble pie? I will try to lean to run it on my phone on the morning but just reading and posting is hard enough from my phone. I don't have the retained energy numbers at 1000yrds. Still , better brass without forming and better bc's in the 6.5x284. I didn't think a 25-06AI would do 3800fps with a 115 vld , was thinking low 3400 fps range. Anybody out there load the 115vld in a 25-06AI?
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:06 AM
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I was woke at midnight and sent that last response :( . I don't have my laptop running but I think the 25-06AI will do about 3200fps with the 115 vld. If someone wants to run the numbers and put them up it would be great but I'm out the door to work.
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:42 AM
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For a bonified 1000yd rifle, there's no contest. 6.5x284 will beat 25-06ai.

Then again, your 280ai should be a respectable 1000yd rifle if it's setup right.

For a 500 yd deer/varmint rifle that would be handed down to a young lady who may not always be an avid handloader, then it's worth reconsidering.

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Old 06-29-2012, 11:24 PM
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From what I've seen a 25-06AI should push a 115gr bullet somewhere around 3300fps maybe a little more and most of the 6.5-284's I know of with normal length barrels will run the 140's around 3000fps.

Setting JBM at 29.92 Baro 0 elevation and 70 F temp at a 1000 yards the 115 Berger gets to 1000 yards 1552fps with 615 ft lbs of energy and the 140 Berger gets there with 1681fps and 878 ft lbs of energy, the 115 is flatter but gives up a bit of windage to the 140. I wouldn't shoot a deer at a 1000 yards with either at that elevation, to me it looks like the 6.5 gains you maybe 30-50 yards unless you push it substantially more but from what I've seen that about where they run. A deer or varmint won't see a difference, after looking at those numbers I'm very glad I hunt at 6000-9000ft elevation!!!!!
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