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Old 08-02-2009, 07:03 PM
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Re: bergers 190 vld in .308

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What barrel length and twist are you using? This will be the determining factors as to how fast youre going to run the 190's.

IMHO, the 200 SGK is better. It has a much lower impact velocity requirement and just about as high a BC. Due to its low impact requirments and high weight and sectional density, you dont need to run them very fast. 2500 FPS buys you over 750 yards in standard air with over 1500 FPS and over 1000 pounds of energy. It is not hard to hit the 2500 FPS mark. The guys at Sierra stated that it would expand at 1500 FPS which makes it an excellent choice for the slower 308.
26" 10 twist McGowen barrel. Shoots the 168gr VLDs into .35 to .4MOA at 2650fps.

The load is 43.5gr RE-15, Lapua case, CCI BR2s.
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26" 10 twist McGowen barrel. Shoots the 168gr VLDs into .35 to .4MOA at 2650fps.

The load is 43.5gr RE-15, Lapua case, CCI BR2s.
My last 308 barrel liked 43.5 of RL-15 with the 150 BT, 168 SMK AND the 190 SMK. 43.5 under the 190 was 2657. In my latest barrel 43.5 was just over 2700. I am sure it is hotter than SAMMI specs but the primers looked good, pockets didnt grow and extraction was flawless.
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Re: bergers 190 vld in .308

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You're getting some incredible velocities out of your rifles.

I just worked up a load with 175VLDs, 44.5grains of RL-15 and Winchester primers (the only primers I could get). Haven't been able to chronograph them yet, but according to the scope adjustments I made to shoot 800, 900 and 1k, the velocity had to be around 2790. Barrel is a factory Remington 1:12 twist and COAL = 3.043 (bullet seated right on the lands). Load shoots .5moa at 100.
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Michael:
You're getting some incredible velocities out of your rifles.

I just worked up a load with 175VLDs, 44.5grains of RL-15 and Winchester primers (the only primers I could get). Haven't been able to chronograph them yet, but according to the scope adjustments I made to shoot 800, 900 and 1k, the velocity had to be around 2790. Barrel is a factory Remington 1:12 twist and COAL = 3.043 (bullet seated right on the lands). Load shoots .5moa at 100.

And you say that I am getting incredible velocities. ...............

Seriously, somewhere around 2750 for a 175 with 44.5 is about right for a factory barrel. There was a very popular load a few years ago. It was 45.0 of VARGET under the 178 AMAX shot out of factory 26" 12x rifles. Guys were getting 2750ish with it with really good accuracy. I have found VARGET and RL15 charge weight for charge weight to be scary close in velocity.
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