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Old 07-23-2009, 07:38 AM
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bergers 190 vld in .308

is anyone shooting the 190 vld in a remington 700 short action .308. i was thinking of trying some but have been thinking about how the mag box length of the short action .308 is only around 2.770inchs. will this mean that the bullet will be way into the case if i mag feed. does this matter heaps. maybe the 175gr are the way to go?
any advice would be great.
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:17 AM
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Re: bergers 190 vld in .308

In a 700 SA, you can get the Bergers seated to 2.825" and still feed smooth. You can always get a Wyatt box magazine. They are cheap and easy to install if you own a dremel tool.

I like the 190's for the 308. With a 26" barrel, I have had no trouble hitting the 2700+ mark. With the high BC's and good weight coupled with decent velocity, it makes for a good match or hunting load.

RL-15 or VVn540 work fantastic.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:50 PM
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Re: bergers 190 vld in .308

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In a 700 SA, you can get the Bergers seated to 2.825" and still feed smooth. You can always get a Wyatt box magazine. They are cheap and easy to install if you own a dremel tool.

I like the 190's for the 308. With a 26" barrel, I have had no trouble hitting the 2700+ mark. With the high BC's and good weight coupled with decent velocity, it makes for a good match or hunting load.

RL-15 or VVn540 work fantastic.

See, I just can not figure out numbers like this. I seem to see so much velocity loss with the 175s and heavier bullets that the higher BC is not enough to overcome it. Best accuracy for me with the 168 Bergers is around 2650 or so.

I don't care about length, the gun is a single shot. Can you share your load with RE-15 that gets 2700+. I am using Re-15, Lapua Cases, and CCI BR2s. Mind to PM or post your load?
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Old 08-01-2009, 04:14 PM
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Re: bergers 190 vld in .308

What barrel length and twist are you using? This will be the determining factors as to how fast youre going to run the 190's.

IMHO, the 200 SGK is better. It has a much lower impact velocity requirement and just about as high a BC. Due to its low impact requirments and high weight and sectional density, you dont need to run them very fast. 2500 FPS buys you over 750 yards in standard air with over 1500 FPS and over 1000 pounds of energy. It is not hard to hit the 2500 FPS mark. The guys at Sierra stated that it would expand at 1500 FPS which makes it an excellent choice for the slower 308.
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:06 PM
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Re: bergers 190 vld in .308

i have a 10 twist and a 24" barrel
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Re: bergers 190 vld in .308

With a shorter barrel and a tighter twist, you wont get the higher velocities in a 308. You would be doing right if you found a 190 load in the 2600 range. Maybe a little bit better.

With your barrel, I would be looking at the 200 Sierra Game King loaded to around 2500. RL-15 should get you there. As always, start on the low side and work them up.

Is this a factory barrel or custom?
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:47 PM
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Re: bergers 190 vld in .308

its a completly factor rig. wish it was custom then u wouldnt have issues with feeding at all. might look into the 175 vld. have been trying the 165sst but i cant seem toi get them to shoot. pitty since they are half the price and the same bc pretty much
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