You guys are great! I like hearing input from those more experienced than myself. I completely agree with Darryl,
"the really true way to make a drop chart is to use a program in conjunction with "actual" fire of the rifle at various ranges or yardages."
I will look at both RSI and Oelher, but I do like RSI's ability to work with the pressure measuring thingy. Thanks again.
I'm with Brent, the RSI Shooting lab is the most accurate program on the market.
Something to consider when looking at ballistic programs. Most of the programs on the market where written by the same person and formatted for the company selling them.
The RSI ballistic lab uses the same formulas and calcualtions as the US Army ballistic engineers use at the US Army Aberdeen Proving Grounds. No other progam I've found comes close to RSI and I have 7 of them.
Hope it helps
Distance is not an issue, but the wind will make it interesting!
Like Darryl, and any wise LR shooter modifying his BC to match his known MV and "actual" drop at various ranges always does, we can also account for temperature and pressure changing trajectory as well. Doing this before hand with computer generated drop charts printed on paper or by using a handheld PDA in the field is the normal way it's done.
Maybe you are new to LR shooting and Darryl knew this, I did not, reguardless of that any new guy would have no more difficulty in entering the same values in any external ballistics program, and reading the results in any program you choose, they're all the same in that respect.
Considering the complexity of Quickloads software, which happens to one of, if not the most complex on the market, I think anyone will do fine with the others. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
What do you want to get for your money, now and in the future seems to me is the question to ask yourself...
The only way I knew/thought he was new to LR hunting was from his first post which I'm sure you read as well as I did. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
I always try to respond to people that are on here as if they were new to the sport.
That's another reason I try to suggest things that don't cost quite as much as other items to get them started in the best way, without putting out an arm and leg up, front.
If they are young, they will have the rest of their life to add to the LR shooting arms and equipment collection and what it takes to improve along the way.
To start with, they many times don't have the funds to buy what you or I may have and frankly, they don't need it to start with.
Like the discussion we had in the past on optics. The new shooter can get by with a leupold LR for $600.00 or $700.00 instead of buying an NXS Nightforce at $1500.00. Does the NF NXS have more bells and whistles, yes, do we all need them, NO.
The Leupold will do everything for that new shooter that any other scope will do until he wants to get something else.
So, I didn't know for sure he was new to LR shooting other then the first post.
Darryl, even "you" would love the RSI program, but I believe it's about the only one you'd ever like over the BEX program. The external ballistics section is fairly simple and may be all one might ever even want to use it for. Jim Ristow may offer a demo of it, and I think he does.
The drop charts are dragable, 1 yd increments if you want, to what ever end range you specify, solutions can be in mils, moa, inches, CM, feet, yards, meters, 1/4 moa, 1/8 moa...
It also has an unlimited length note pad you can use to make notes if you want to save the data and/or print the drops with notes on it. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
As stated though, for ease of operation and for a new guy getting into this game, the Oehler is about all "anyone" would really need.
That goes for most all of us to. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Most of us don't want to know what the bullet is doing every single yard to the target. That small amount of drop just takes up paper space.
Even with a program that some put a lot of faith in, the really true way to make a drop chart is to use a program in conjunction with "actual" fire of the rifle at various ranges or yardages.
There is a difference from day to day and you and I both know it. NO program is fool proof and I have found that out many times. They may be close but, NEVER perfect no matter who made them up.
That's another reason I take a spotter shot first when Longrange hunting.