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Old 12-17-2007, 08:32 PM
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Hey guys first time posting but I've been lurking for awhile.

I have a couple of questions I would like to put out here to see what some of your opinions might be.

First I'm thinking about getting a DPMS w/JP trigger in a .223 for plinking, coyotes and PD hunting. Where my hang up is deciding between the 16" Bull or the 20" Bull, will I be losing anything(noticeable) besides weight with the 16".

Second, is optics. I was leaning towards one of the Nikons but I have seen a few posts on here about the Super Snipers just curious if anyone else has any experience with them?

Thanks In Advance,

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Old 12-17-2007, 09:35 PM
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If the gun is just gonna be for stationary shooting and not gonna be packed around or needed to be brough into service fast then the weight has no differance so i would get the 20 or 24" barrel as you will only be gaining speed and slowing the recoil impulse.

One note though , I would definalty shop around , you can get way better deals than just buying a DPMS or any other complete rifle out right. you can buy a complete kit loaded with what you would want in a gun like this , minus the stripped lower for $600 and the stripped lower is only another $125 max and if you like you can get a stainless lower. So for around $800 you can get a heavy SS barreled AR with a Badger forend and alot of places will alter your package to your wants.

AR's are better than Savages when it comes to guys doing the work at home , they are like legos just plug the parts together.

If you get the urge to have a short fast handeling rifle for say rapid coyote shooting then you can pay a $200 SBR tax and get a 14" AR chambered in 6mm-223 , they feed better than the regular 223 and shoot flatter with 55gr bullets ,they have longer barrel life and are more effecient so very little velocity is lost , I can run 55gr bullets out of my 14" as fast maybe faster than I can run 55gr pills out of a 20" barreled 223
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:59 PM
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Hi James. How ya'll are? I didn't realize that you're into ARs. At present I've got 2, both in 6mm/223, although I'm seriously looking towards a 6.5 Grendel too. We'll have to compare notes. One of these years, I'm going to come down there and help you thin out some swamp rats. They're a favorite of mine here in Oregon.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:56 PM
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Hey their Art , yea I like AR's mostly for tactical shooting and just basicaly playing with , lately I've been into making silencers for them and I'm kinda hooked on them , its nice to be able to cut the recoil way down and not have to use ear plugs.

The Neutria are as bad now as ever , I thought that hurricane Kartinba would have decimated their numbers as well as the hogs buit I guess you can't kill bad grass.

SPD800 , forgot to mention about your scope question , I have a Nikon Tactical now and I love it well worht the money they are asking for them , but the couple SSS I've looked through weren't bad for the money , but if your gonna be calling coyotes I'd recomend a variable , its easy to loose a moving animal with a fixed power scope at close range.
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Old 12-18-2007, 03:14 PM
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I do a little arm gunsmithing and I have 5 AR's. 2 are Bushmasters and three I "snapped" together myself. One of the three I put together is in 7.62X39. The mag issues were a bit tricky to solve, but I found some that work perfect in it.

You can save a ton of money if you "do-it-yourself". I put together one for the wife for <$500 it's not a bull barrel, but it is pretty nice....shoots great too! The company I buy my stuff though sells the upper kit like you are looking for $449 plus shipping. The kit has the barrel and upper already head spaced...ready to go. You get everything else you need in the kit except the lower. The lowers I buy from a guy in Lousianna for $80 plus shipping and you transfer though a FFL.

PM me and I'll give you the comapny's names and contact info if you are interrested in "doing-it-yourself."
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