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Old 04-01-2010, 11:11 AM
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Any tips and thoughts for a long range rifle?

Hey guys im looking for tips and advice on a new long range rifle for ranges of 650 to 900 yards for a mix target practise down on the range and hunting of elk and deer mainly done within northern sweden the environment is extremely similar to that of canadas.

I was looking at either the Remington 700 XCR tactical long range in 308. and the Remington 700 sendero also in 308. and outfitting the rifle with either a Huskemaw or Bushnell scope. Any tipss or advice will be much appreciated.
My budget is around $2500 to $3000

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Old 04-01-2010, 11:32 AM
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Re: Any tips and thoughts for a long range rifle?

just a few questions might help people with advice do you reload and are you open to wildcat cartridges and is your budget just the rifle or include the scope probably going to need a big magnum 300or 338 rum or wm to hunt at 900 yards
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:25 PM
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Re: Any tips and thoughts for a long range rifle?

your 308 will be plenty accurate at the distance you stated, but it will run out of steam pretty fast. Im with Mopar on this one. If elk/stag are on your Long range menue(900yds) youd be better off with a 300mag or 338mag of some sort.
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Old 04-01-2010, 05:25 PM
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Re: Any tips and thoughts for a long range rifle?

308 on elk/stag pass 400 yards isn't my idea of a good idea. Out to 900 yards a 300wm would be my minimum. I wouldn't argue with a 300 rum or similar 300 calibers but, IMHO I prefer 338's. You could go with a 338 rum or 338 wildcat but wildcats can get expensive.
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Old 04-01-2010, 08:06 PM
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Re: Any tips and thoughts for a long range rifle?

I disagree totally with those who believe a magnum is needed to shoot elk/stag at 900 yards. Using Berger bullets with a high BC and shooting something that is comfortable to shoot leads to good shot placement = dead critter every time. I have killed a 350 BC Elk at 902 yards with a 6-284 with a 105 grain VLD and have witnessed a 330 bull killed at 1115 yards and a 372 bull killled at 735 yards with this same cartridge. All these bulls were killed with one shot and only one traveled more than 10 yards after being hit (that one hit the ground so hard he slid down a hill approximately 50 yards!!). There are several calibers out there by using the right components are fully capable of killing elk size critters at extended ranges that are not Magnums.. 6-284, 6.5-284, 6.5-06AI are just a few of great choices for a person who doesn't want to put up with obnoxious breaks that seem to accompany magnums along with their ablility to produce flinching tendencies. Check out the Trophy Page on www.cloudpeakgunworks.com .

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Old 04-01-2010, 08:26 PM
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Re: Any tips and thoughts for a long range rifle?

CPGfan, great shooting. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:30 PM
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Re: Any tips and thoughts for a long range rifle?

cpgfan you are correct about shot placement. One thing most don't contemplate is as they get better they want to shoot farther. I am not saying hunting maybe just smacking some steele at say a mile. The farther you practice the better you become IMO.

Draw backs of a magnum:

cost more to shoot(powder, barrel life etc.)
muzzle break
heavy and cumbersome (30" barrel etc.)

Benefits:

Higher bc bullet makes less wind deflection
increased velocity which will cause less flight time for less wind effect
longer distance to shoot.
more down range energy.


So some important questions might be:

How much can I spend on this hobby? $2500
How many rifles am I going to have?
What kind of hunting do I do? (this can be a big deal carrying a 15lb rifle)
What distance am I going to shoot in the future? (practice etc.)

I like the idea of having a cheap long range rifle for practice and varmints 6X47lapua. I also have a 7wsm and 284Jazz(7-338norma mag improved) for larger game. I am having a semicustom 6.5X284norma savage accurized for a knock around gun. The 112bvss is a cheap way to get into long range shooting. Make sure it has a fast twist barrel though to stabilize those heavy high bc bullets. Maybe the 7wsm would be a better choice, my gunsmith was shooting his out to 1900yds.


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