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Old 04-14-2012, 09:41 PM
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Another guy needing help

I have a marlin xl7 in 30 06, i am looking to get another rifle but in left hand, I am looking at savage and a r700, i know sps comes in left hand, I do not know which to get, i know the sps will need a trigger job. I just don't know the good things and bad things about either companies rifles. If you have any advice please let me know.

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Old 04-16-2012, 10:27 AM
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Re: Another guy needing help

Rifles are kinda user specific. Everyone has a favorite brand & or model. There are very accurate rifles from most major manufacturers out there nowadays. You always run the risk of getting a lemon, & getting stuck in the "customer service" game with no real end in sight.

Have you considered re-piping an old rifle? If you choose to re barrel & keep the bolt face the same its usually VERY cost effective. Approx the same $ as a brand new rifle of good quality. But you'd have a guaranteed accurate semi custom with a longer pipe for higher muzzle velocity, floated, and action bedded, tried, & squared.
I'm currently having one of my ol Winchester Model-70 XTR's done. It started life as an -06, but its being converted to a long action 300 WSM with a bit longer throat, longer barrel, fluted, bolt fluting, muzzle brake, extended mag, squared & trued action etc. This adds a bit to the price, but its built to MY specs, & guaranteed to be a shooter. & honestly I'm still only at about the price of 1 1/2 new rifles.

Just something to consider. Maybe you want to go to a local pawn shop & buy a cheap Win or Rem rifle as a donor.
There are some Top Shelf smiths, & sponsors on this site, & they're as good as it gets. Some even offer package deals. When you play in the L/R game, your gonna be around some of the best, & most demanding shooters in the world. These guys wouldn't be sponsors here if they weren't the best, & capable of catering to this crowd.

If you want to stay with factory store bought rifles, I'd highly recomend Weatherby Vanguard S-II, if you can find one with a kickstand on the wrong side
They're guaranteed sub MOA, & they're very affordable, have a good adjustable trigger, they're rebuildable, & Howa1500/Wby Vanguard has a pretty good aftermarket support for future upgrades.
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:38 PM
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Re: Another guy needing help

the only bolt gun I have is my marlin xl7 in 06. I don't really need a out of box gun, I am looking for the best way to have a rifle for me. not many companies offer left handed models and some are out of my budget. if i could build one over time that would be best. Should I look for left handed models in pawn shops? i know it would be ideal but but not sure how many i will come across. I haven't looked in the weatherby yet but I will see if they have a lefty available. what models of the others you mentioned should I look for? sorry i am really new to this and don't really have anywhere else to go for this kind of information. I would like it to have great accuracy, although i know i will not be as accurate as the rifle. Thanks for the your response I was afraid I wasn't going to be getting any responses.
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:41 PM
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the only bolt gun I have is my marlin xl7 in 06. I don't really need a out of box gun, I am looking for the best way to have a rifle for me. not many companies offer left handed models and some are out of my budget. if i could build one over time that would be best. Should I look for left handed models in pawn shops? i know it would be ideal but but not sure how many i will come across. I haven't looked in the weatherby yet but I will see if they have a lefty available. what models of the others you mentioned should I look for? sorry i am really new to this and don't really have anywhere else to go for this kind of information. I would like it to have great accuracy, although i know i will not be as accurate as the rifle. Thanks for the your response I was afraid I wasn't going to be getting any responses.
Rem700, (NOT THE WALMART ONE! that's a one time use, & throw away gun, not buildable).
Win Model-70 push feed is cheapest to buy, & to build, controlled round feed costs more to buy, & to build. Pre 64' co$ts $$$.
Call a smith like Teds Custom Shop in Weatherford Ok. for example, & talk to him. See what he recomends, or likes to build for a budget build. I know he had an ol Winchester (Right hand), & probably has a 98' Mauser or two (don't know if they come in Left hand) but he's a wealth of knowledge. He's also building my rifle I mentioned earlier.

Maybe he'd be able to set you up with a nice rig, or point you in a direction.

Do you want a long action or short action?
What's your intended use? Wt. Deer only? or do you Elk hunt too?
How far away do you want to shoot said critters?
Do you handload? Do you want wildcat cartriges or something you go by ammo for?
What kind of performance do you want? Champaign taste on a Beer budget, or....?
If you handload, look in your manual at listed B.C.'s of bullets, & load data for different cartriges & run them thru JBM Balistics calculator. It's free.
If you don't have a load book buy one. They're about $28 & well worth every penny.

Example of stuff to look up on JBM:
Take a 30 cal, & let's say a 180gr bullet, & compare em in different cartriges.
A 308 win is a fine cartrige, but an -06 will do anything a 308 can do, & do it better, & faster, yet a 300 win trumps an -06', and a 300 RUM trumps that ballistically but now barrel life is dwindling rapidly..... There's always a trade off.
A big 338 that can launch 300gr pills at "holy crap speed" is the best thing going for LR, like Elk past 1k at the moment, but you prettymuch have to handload or buy 338 Lapua ammo, & that may require a second mortgage on your house.... It's all gonna depend on your expectations, intended use, & budget.
Good luck, & don't be scared off by high rollers shootin ferrari cartriges. There's plenty of room in the LR world for a budget gun too. You just need to figure out where you stand, so you know what direction to jump.

I'm not a Savage fan personally, but I know a lot of well respected LRH members, & shooters here that are. There's even a few threads about LR on a budget. Do s search for Tikkamike, & look for a thread he started about a super budget build on a savage if you want to go that direction. Savage had to earn thier accuracy reputation. It wasn't just given to them. For a cheap, ugly, rough as a cobb gun, they flat out shoot good. Bigngreen Loves em too. He's got video of him smokin an Elk at like 850 ish with his Savage 270 WSM.

Do some research, & call Ted. Good luck.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:33 PM
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Re: Another guy needing help

Thanks for the help and for telling me who to talk to, I will get on this soon as possible!
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:00 PM
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Re: Another guy needing help

what is a good caliber to use. i use 30 06 now and i like it but not sure what else would be good to use. i was maybe thinking about 7mag, but not really sure what to choose
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:09 AM
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Re: Another guy needing help

The caliber question is one that only you can answer. If you are recoil sensitive, I would consider a muzzle break. Craig Boddington said, " Choose the biggest caliber you can shoot accurately". Which means no flinching of course.

If your looking for a long ranger, the 338 RUM or the 300 RUM are pretty awesome. Brass is reasonable and there are lots of guys in this forum that have tons of great knowledge.

I have the collection of Ultra Mags and love each one of them like my children. They all shoot very, very well. The 7mm ultra, 300 ultra, 338 ultra, are .25 group at 300 yards. I do not have muzzle breaks on any of them.

Good luck on your quest!!
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