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Old 04-01-2006, 11:03 PM
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Re: 7mm rem mag or 7mm STW

TMR,
I have a sendero chambered in 7 ultra mag. I really enjoy shooting it. It all depends on your tolerence. I've been shooting my sendero for about three years and it doesn't really bother me. If it did bother you, a muzzle break is not that expensive at all. I don't see myself getting a break for mine.
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Old 04-02-2006, 11:46 AM
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Re: 7mm rem mag or 7mm STW

Well, guess I will find out soon. I found a Sendero in 7mm stw that I bought, should be here end of the week. When I did the recoil calculations online, it was about the same as my short mag that I have now. Thanks for the comments guys.
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:51 PM
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Well, guess I will find out soon.

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Old 04-06-2006, 08:28 PM
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I have to wait until next week......UPS screwed up in transit and it won't be here until the 11th. Only 5 more sleepless nights.
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Old 05-07-2006, 10:30 PM
 
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Re: 7mm rem mag or 7mm STW

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recoil is subjective.

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That's for sure. My brother, nephews and I think my 50 BMG's are my lightest kicking guns. My 105# petite nieces say my 338 winMan BAR is. They all easily shoot my Kirby/Lilja 375 RUM with Holland QD Brake. They won't shoot my stock 243 winny but think my Kirby/Lilja 338 RUM with Holland Qd is a Pusey cat. If fact, after shooting the 375 tack driver at the range one day, I reached for my favorite factory gun, an a-bolt 270 WSM. I got magnum eye, flinch, and couldn't hit squat. I had it send it to Kirby for a Holland QD brake and trigger job. Now it shoots 1/2 MOA again (Just dumb luck for a factory gun to shoot that well).

With my caldwell electronic muffs, I can hear fine with no noise suppression - and the blast is removed when I shoot. I've noticed I'm not too popular at the range tho [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (Except everyone comes to see what is making the horrendous blast, then they see the amazingly beautiful/accurate long range hammers Kirby makes me.)

As much as I love the 4 RUMS I own, the 7mm RUM is way too overbore. 7STW's give the best consistency. I'll send Kirby a rem 700 LA some day and have him put a long Lilja tube on it cut for 7STW.
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Old 05-08-2006, 04:54 AM
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Re: 7mm rem mag or 7mm STW

When shooting hand held rifles, the more recoil there is the harder it is to shoot them accurately. If one of those cartridges fits a 25 to 50 pound benchrest rifle fired in free recoil, then it doesn't matter.

It's the recoil that happens while the bullet's going down the barrel (sometimes called 'jump') that makes hard kicking ones more difficult to shoot straight. For starting out, the 7mm Rem. Mag. would be the better choice because it's got less recoil. When its barrel wears out and you've mastered its recoil, maybe you'll want to have it chambered for the 7mm STW. Note the STW's barrel will have about 30% less barrel life than the Rem. Mag. one.
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Old 05-13-2006, 10:28 AM
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When shooting hand held rifles, the more recoil there is the harder it is to shoot them accurately. If one of those cartridges fits a 25 to 50 pound benchrest rifle fired in free recoil, then it doesn't matter.

BartB,

I agree that more recoil will develop poor shooting habits....With that being said, the 7mm STW in a Sendero weight rifle, recoils less that my brothers 7mm Rem Mag in a standard weight rifle. There is about 2.5 lbs difference in the rifles, but the STW does has less felt recoil. I have been shooting 160 gr Accubonds and 168 VLD's through it at around 3200fps and it is very pleasant to shoot. I did read where the STW throat will erode quickly and groups will start to open up. So far this rifle will put 3 shots almost in one hole at 100 yds, just over 3/8" of and inch at 200 yds. I have not bedded the rifle yet, but plan to today. So far, I am very happy with it. Just sent my scope back to Leupold to get target turrents installed, so my shooting will have to stop for a little while. Hopefully I get it back before I head to Montana at the end of the month....was hoping to do a little prarie dog or rockchuck hunting.

It's the recoil that happens while the bullet's going down the barrel (sometimes called 'jump') that makes hard kicking ones more difficult to shoot straight. For starting out, the 7mm Rem. Mag. would be the better choice because it's got less recoil. When its barrel wears out and you've mastered its recoil, maybe you'll want to have it chambered for the 7mm STW. Note the STW's barrel will have about 30% less barrel life than the Rem. Mag. one.

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