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Old 06-26-2010, 09:58 PM
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308 or 284

I want a long range target/hunting rifle. I'm an elk hunter, so this rifle needs to be able to cleanly take an elk at 650 yards. The rifle can not weigh more than 12lbs total with scope. I will be target shooting 99% of the time, but this will be my do all rifle. I reload for myself and my shooting buddies. I have been shooting my 223 out past 1000 yard every weekend. I have no problem making hits at this range once I have walked my bullets in. I am in the process of learning to make wind calls for first round hits. I feel that this is were the higher bc of the .284 will help.

The rifle will probably be built on a Savage 16 action,but that is not set in stone yet. This will be my first semi custom build. Any advice is appreciated!
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Old 06-26-2010, 10:34 PM
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Re: 308 or 284

Another thing to consider is how much recoil do you want to deal with and if you want a muzzle break or not. If you want minimal recoil and no muzzle break look to the 284, possibly 280AI . If you are not against a break you might even look to the 338 like the 338 RUM.
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Old 06-26-2010, 10:35 PM
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Re: 308 or 284

I have a 7mm SAUM (Short Action Ultra Mag) that I use for deer and antelope. I'm pushing the 180 gr Berger at 2940 fps and excellent accuracy out as far as I care to shoot. Something like this would more than meet your criteria.

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Old 06-26-2010, 11:07 PM
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Re: 308 or 284

I think the 300 wsm would be a great choice,i don't like the idea of a brake on a multi purpose rifle so i would have it threaded and capped and use the brake for bench work unless you like hunting with ear muffs.I was getting 2950 with 200gr smk from a 28" tube.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:04 AM
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Re: 308 or 284

I have considered the wsm, but this rifle will be mainly a target rifle. I would like to keep the reloading cost down. I will be selling my 223 and a Ruger Hawkeye 308 to fund this build. This will be my only rifle for a couple years, till I save the money for the big gun. As I stated, I shoot every weekend and don't want the reloading cost to cut into my next project.

The short mags are still of interest and not ruled out, but just cost that much more. I do like the extra performance and would consider a 7mm wsm. I like the versatility of the Savage rifle, but I am actually a crf guy. If I could find a smith and after market stock, I would convert my Ruger to a 284 and be done with it.

Has anyone shot a large bull elk at 650 yards or farther with a 308 winchester, and if yes how did it turn out? I have shot the 308 for a while but have never taken it hunting. I just don't have the confidence in this caliber.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:50 AM
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Re: 308 or 284

I am sure there would be a smith to convert your ruger and inlet a stock for you, Custom Replacement Gunstocks, Rifle Stocks - Quality, Accuracy, Aluminum Chassis - Accurate Innovations make laminate stocks for rugers they also have a bedding system which looks to suit almost any blank stock.
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Old 06-27-2010, 01:54 AM
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Re: 308 or 284

Jarhead was absolutely right then if your looking for a good target rifle first. The 7mm SAUM is the round to get. I started a thread in the main forum 7mm SAUM Vs 7/300wsm vs 7mm wsm and I think I had the links in there to some great articles. From what I gather the 7mm saum does pretty much the same as the others with less powder and the rem brass is cheap plus its a factory die so no custom wildcat dies needed. +1 for the 7mm saum its what Im building off my tikka action.
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