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Old 10-14-2008, 06:19 AM
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300 vrs 7mm

ok i have two questions1. 7mmwsm of 300wsm for deer at longer ranges 800m
2 are there better options not going above the the size of the 300wsm ish. eg i done want a laupa magnum. i thought the 7mm had far bewtter bc so i was convinced on it. then read something and started thinking again. damn it
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:33 AM
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Re: 300 vrs 7mm

The 7mmWSM would be had to beat , shooting the 162 A-max at 3000-3100fos would be very hard to beat balisticaly with anything in the 300 WSM. The 300 does have the ability to shoot bigger heavier built bullets like the 200gr AccuBond if you were shooting at big game like moose or elk or bigger.

The 7mmWSM running a 180gr Berger at close to the 3000fps range shoot very flat out past anything the more common 30 cals can and has more than enoguth energy to kill deer out tom 1500yds
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Old 10-18-2008, 01:56 AM
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Re: 300 vrs 7mm

It really comes down to personal preference on this one. A deer at 800m really isn't going to know the difference, either will be plenty effective and there are many good bullet choices for both. But, if it were me, I would go with the 7WSM.
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:59 AM
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The 7mmWSM running a 180gr Berger at close to the 3000fps range shoot very flat out past anything the more common 30 cals can and has more than enoguth energy to kill deer out tom 1500yds
How do you retain enough velocity to initiate bullet expansion at 1500yds? I can't maintain expansion velocity past about 1100 yds in my 7mm Rem Mag. And that's with the 168 gr Berger VLD. I consider expansion velocity to require ~1700 fps.

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Old 10-18-2008, 03:00 AM
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ok i have two questions1. 7mmwsm of 300wsm for deer at longer ranges 800m
2 are there better options not going above the the size of the 300wsm ish. eg i done want a laupa magnum. i thought the 7mm had far bewtter bc so i was convinced on it. then read something and started thinking again. damn it
I'd go 7mm WSM or 7mm Rem Mag.
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Old 10-18-2008, 06:57 PM
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Re: 300 vrs 7mm

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How do retain enough velocity to initiate bullet expansion at 1500yds? I can't maintain expansion velocity past about 1100 yds in my 7mm Rem Mag. And that's with the 168 gr Berger VLD. I consider expansion velocity to require ~1700 fps.
dont worry about the 1500 yd. thing bub. all sounds good, but aint many, if any, 7mms can cut that mustard for hunting. a big 30 or a big 338, is the only thing that makes any sence for that. if you havent done it, hold on the opinions untill you have. the hell with the programs.
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Old 10-19-2008, 01:12 AM
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dont worry about the 1500 yd. thing bub. all sounds good, but aint many, if any, 7mms can cut that mustard for hunting. a big 30 or a big 338, is the only thing that makes any sence for that. if you havent done it, hold on the opinions untill you have. the hell with the programs.
Well your's is a tough post to understand. Is your response to me (phorwath) or are you responding to "James Jones"? I'm confident in my opinion on the 7mm WSM or Rem Mag out to 800 yds for deer. Been there, done that, currently doing it farther than that on caribou. My question was to James Jones who stated that the 7mm WSM has more than enough energy to kill deer out to 1500 yds. From my perspecitve, there may be enough energy at 1500 yds if you brain the deer, but if the bullet doesn't open up with a body shot at 1500 yds, what good does the energy do if it's spent on the ground or brush after the bullet punches through the deer's body? So I was hoping to hear back from James on his rationale.

Have you heard of the 7mm Allen Magnum? I'm sure it's a potent deer killer out to 1500 yds. But the original poster wasn't interested in shooting 1500 yds. He was looking for a cartridge for use out to 800 yds. And specifically looking at the better of either the 7mm WSM or the 300 WSM. Which is why I recommended either the 7mm WSM or the 7mm Rem Mag, as either will do the job out to a good 900 - 1000 yds.

Maybe James Jones meant those bambi sized deer you shoot in Florida, eh yobuck? We'll have to condition all of your comments on the basis of marsh rat sized deer? That about right? Any more opinions to share... Bub?

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