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Old 02-23-2009, 08:20 PM
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30-06???

I know a lot of guys shoot .308 for long range but hows a 30-06? I was going to buy a .308 but in searching around I found we have 2 30-06s so if I can put a good scope on it and shoot that I will. Any opinions? My dad said he thought that the .308 was a smaller lighter bullet but I was looking and you can get the same grain bullets in either or less or more just depending on what you get.
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Old 02-23-2009, 10:39 PM
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Re: 30-06???

I have a stock Remmy Classic 30-06 with a Leup Vari X III. With the handloads I worked up, I am minute of angle, accuracy wise. Confidant with it to 500 yards, and you are not going to be harvesting game further than that with a 308. Others on this site shoot to 1000 yards with more sophisticated equipment, but I feel more comfortable at even 400 or less. The 30-06 used to win all the 1000 yard matches, but now I think it is the 308 or 300 Win Mag. I am happy with my 8.75# 30-06, but if I need more I have bigger bore magnums.
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Old 02-23-2009, 11:23 PM
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Re: 30-06???

Worked up a load for my browning 30-06 last summer that held moa out to 750yrds with hunting velocity. 30-06 is a great caliber in my opinion. Run with it.

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Old 02-23-2009, 11:25 PM
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Re: 30-06???

A 308 win is slightly smaller than the 3006. The case holds less powder, but due to a very efficient case design, it looses little to the 3006 velocity wise. A 06 will handle heavy bullets a little better than the 08, but because the 308 is such an efficient cartidge it is generally preffered by comp shooters or many accuracy nuts.

With that said, accuracy is determined more by the quality of rifle rather than shape of the cartidge. The famous sniper C. Hathcock used a 30-06 rifle in Vietnam for many 800+ yard shots (supposedly one at over 1100?)... so it can't be all that bad a cartidge.

Now the trend for 1000 yard matches is leaning towards the 7mm, 6.5mm, and even the 6mm due to increaded technology in bullet making.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:19 PM
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Re: 30-06???

other things being equal the 30-06 is 100fps faster. does either rifle shoot 3/4" groups at 100 yards ? how far are you shoooting ? what are you shooting?
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Old 03-06-2009, 02:36 PM
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Re: 30-06???

The accuracy potential of the 308 over the 3006 more than makes up for the 100 FPS loss to it.

In this sport accuracy is everything.

Can an 06 be made to be shot accurately? Yes. Can the 308 do it easier and more concistently? Absolutely. She is much less finicky.

Anyone who would argue against these claims has never worked extensively with both side by side.

There is a reason major branches of LE and military use the 308 over the 3006. Any monkey with 1/2 a brain can do amazing things with a 308 with even minimal training.
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Old 03-06-2009, 02:48 PM
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Re: 30-06???

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The accuracy potential of the 308 over the 3006 more than makes up for the 100 FPS loss to it.

In this sport accuracy is everything.

Can an 06 be made to be shot accurately? Yes. Can the 308 do it easier and more concistently? Absolutely. She is much less finicky.

Anyone who would argue against these claims has never worked extensively with both side by side.

There is a reason major branches of LE and military use the 308 over the 3006. Any monkey with 1/2 a brain can do amazing things with a 308 with even minimal training.
So it's the cartridge that is inherently accurate not the rifle?

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