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Old 05-26-2010, 07:53 PM
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.270wsm

g'day from aus, first time on this forum.
i am very interested in long range hunting!
my first rifle will be a savage .204ruger for varmints
the next gun i was looking at was a Remington 700 XHR
in .270WSM, is the 270WSM a good long range gun for say pigs
and small deer?
i am not at all interested in close range hunting as i will just use my bow.

hope it made sence, take it easy fellas

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Old 05-26-2010, 11:07 PM
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Re: .270wsm

The 270wsm is a nice cartridge it will kill varmints, deer and elk size game, but the bullets lack a good ballistic coefficient for the looooong range work.

If you like the WSM's, choose the 7mm WSM. Then you can shoot the 168grain VLD (bc = .617) and the 180 grain VLD (bc = .659)
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Old 05-27-2010, 06:11 AM
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Re: .270wsm

Hi

The 7wsm IMO is on its last legs in Aus... The 300wsm has excellent sales figures followed by the 270 then 325wsm.

I do like the 300wsm as a great all round big deer round.

However I do really like the standard 7mm Rem Mag...doesnt kick the hell out of you and you can find the ammo nearly anywhere.

Do you hand load? If not the 7mm rem mag is a good one with plenty of ammo choices. My T3 Camo shoots under .4 of an inch.. stock factory sporter. with hand loads I must add.
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:00 AM
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Re: .270wsm

The 270 WSM is an excellent choice for ranges out to 800yrds and at my elevation I would shoot mule deer out to a 1000yrds with it, even with the 140 Berger that I currently shoot. The difference between a Berger 150gr out of a 270 WSM and the 168 Berger out of a 7mm is not what everyone makes it out to be, they both make it to a 1000yrds at about the same speed. The 270 gets there with less MOA in elevation but you have a little more in wind deflection. The 7mm has a couple hundred more ft-lbs of energy.
The 270 cal bullets function more reliable than the 7mm ones that I have shot or seen game shot with, I would always take a little lesser 270 cal over a 7mm on game just from what I see in terminal performance.
If you can get your hands on the 169.5gr Wildcat bullets later this year when they come into production then there is nothing you can shoot out of a 7mm mag or WSM that will touch it in the 270 WSM.
That being said the 300WSM is a solid choice also!
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:29 AM
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The 270 WSM is an excellent choice for ranges out to 800yrds and at my elevation I would shoot mule deer out to a 1000yrds with it, even with the 140 Berger that I currently shoot. The difference between a Berger 150gr out of a 270 WSM and the 168 Berger out of a 7mm is not what everyone makes it out to be, they both make it to a 1000yrds at about the same speed. The 270 gets there with less MOA in elevation but you have a little more in wind deflection. The 7mm has a couple hundred more ft-lbs of energy.
The 270 cal bullets function more reliable than the 7mm ones that I have shot or seen game shot with, I would always take a little lesser 270 cal over a 7mm on game just from what I see in terminal performance.
If you can get your hands on the 169.5gr Wildcat bullets later this year when they come into production then there is nothing you can shoot out of a 7mm mag or WSM that will touch it in the 270 WSM.
That being said the 300WSM is a solid choice also!
+1, I like the way you think.
Im in love with my 270wsm with 140 accubonds(listed .496 B.C.) to the 6-800 yd range. I could probably push that a bit further, on deer and smaller size critters, but my personal ability hasnt caught up to my imagination yet.
The Hornady SST 150gr has a listed B.C. OF .525. It shoots quite well out of my rifle also.
Id like to see some more info on these 169.5gr. wildcat bullets.
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Re: .270wsm

Between the 150 SST (BC.525) and the 150 Berger VLD (BC.531) is that this little cartridge can push them very hard. With these BC's it is a legit 1000yrd rifle for hogs and small deer as per the prescribed description of hunting. Looking at some loads on Reloadersnest.com, 3145fps is the high. I imagine with some good hand loading that you will be able to push it a little harder if you want. Pushing a .531 BC bullet at 3145fps according to jbm calculations results in 24.5 MOA up, 1614fps and 868 fps. That is more velocity and energy than a 44 Magnum pistol at point blank range (300grn Hornady XTP bullet). The velocity is sufficient to open the bullet upon impact on something as hard as a hog without issue and still will cause the bullet to function on small deer. I would imagine a Dingo would hate it also ;)!!!!! The 270 WSM is proving with its velocity and bullet functioning the way they do that you don't need an uber magnum to get it done for deer size game or smaller.

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Old 06-05-2010, 07:05 PM
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You have to remember he is Australia and in remote areas the wsm range of ammo isnt always on hand. The 325wsm hasnt set any sales records and the 7mm wsm is dead in the water here IMO. The 300wsm is really popular amongst deer hunters. The 270wsm may also survive due to reasonable sales. Perhaps a 7mm RM may be the better option if he doesnt handload if he doesnt live in a major town centre. 30/06 .308 .270 win are always on hand..

In Aus the 300wsm rules and sales are excellent.. But I agree the 270wsm will do it on its ear! Just consider the 7mm RM and ammunition options if you dont relaod.

Re Uber magnum... I dont think the the 7mm is over gunned and the 270wsm would be pretty close in performance!

Actually for what you want there is nothing wrong with the classic .270 Winchester.....I do have a soft spot for that and it would be perfect for you. Its still Sambar legal
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