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Old 03-18-2004, 11:04 AM
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221 fireball

Does any have 221 fireball? I would like to know how far it shoots accuratly. How accurate it is at 100yds. And is it big enough to take a deer down?
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Old 03-18-2004, 08:11 PM
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Re: 221 fireball

I have been shooting a .221FB rifle for several years. Funny, but when I had it built I thought I would be one of very few people who would be using this cartridge in a rifle. Boy was I in for a surprise. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

My Hart barreled rifle will shoot 40gr B-Tip bullets into .5moa @ 200yds, providing that the wind is favorable. Small varmint kills out to 400yds are obtainable.

As for deer??????????? You will always read about the guy who kills his deer with a 22 rimfire. The .221FB with a 53gr X bullet is certainly adequate for a whitetail if the range is moderate and the shot placement is perfect. With that said, I'd add that I don't shoot deer with anything smaller than my 7mm-08. But that's just me. I don't look for the least potent cartridge that can get the job done [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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Old 03-19-2004, 12:27 AM
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Re: 221 fireball

I've got one on a chanlyn barrel and it will get in the 2's and 3's and will get out in the 200 yd range for PD. I use 52 gr match bullets but may try some 40 gr for it and get the velocity up. If done right the 221 fireball is just a small 222. I've had mine about 10 yrs now. My buddy got one with a wise-mcmillian barrel and it's a solid 1/2" rifle. Only problem we run into is the wind out in eastern co somedays a 50 might be OK. Well good luck to you.
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Old 03-19-2004, 09:04 AM
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Re: 221 fireball

i would never attempt to take a deer with anything less than a 243 with a 100 grain bullet. using anything less than that is just unethical.
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Old 03-19-2004, 09:10 AM
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Re: 221 fireball

unethical...of course [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] so a head shot with a 223 is unethical?

or an 85gn Game king out of a 243...or...
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Old 03-19-2004, 09:21 AM
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Re: 221 fireball

Varminting with the .221FB.

The .221FB rifle seems to be idealy suited for use with the 40gr bullets. For a long time my standard load was a Nosler 40gr B-Tip (moly) over 19.3gr of RE7. Shot .5" @ 3,200 ft/sec and killed many PA groundgogs.

About a year ago I switched to Lil'Gun with the same bullet. Lil'Gun is capable of shooting the 40gr bullet @ 3,600 ft/sec. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] That's a whopping 400 ft/sec increase. Only a slight flattening of the primers can be detected and the brass has been reloaded several times without a problem. Accuracy is the same out of the 21" Hart tube.

This would put the .221 right on the heals of the .223. Not equal, but close. The .221FB is a very accurate and useful cartridge in a short/light rifle.

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Old 03-21-2004, 08:22 PM
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Re: 221 fireball

I have a CZ 527 in .221 Fireball and really like its looks, ballance and accuracy.

It has a factory single-set trigger, factory supplied scope rings, 5-shot removable box magazine, hammer-forged 22-inch barrel and is very, very accurate.

The test target that came with my rifle shows 3 shots into 0.375 inches at 100 meters. Not bad!

With the new Remington factory ammo (50grain V-max), I have been getting 0.75 inch groups from shooting sticks and seated position at 100 yards--plenty good for coyote.

The Fireball is also very "quiet", as compared to a .223 Remington. Actually, the ballistics for the 50 grain bullet in the 22-inch barrel (.221 Fireball) are better than the .223 Remington in a 16" carbine. Quieter, too.

The Fireball is worth a look if you want a highly efficient cartridge for 200 yard coyotes or 400 yard PDs.

I would go with a Nosler 60-grain Partition or the Barnes XLC 45-grain bullet for larger critters (and keep range short with perfect shot placement).

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