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Old 11-28-2006, 02:49 AM
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Re: Single-shot VS. repeater action

Hi Paal,

No I haven't found any one piece base. I'll go with two piece bases for now and see how it goes...

I think 7075 is very strong, according to this:
http://www.tpsproducts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48
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Old 11-28-2006, 07:54 AM
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Re: Single-shot VS. repeater action

So......a standard Remington 700 1 piece base will not fit the Borden Alpine action? What are the alternatives? I've got one on the way and I hope that isn't the case.
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Old 11-28-2006, 09:42 PM
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Re: Single-shot VS. repeater action

Hi Crane,

Borden's action is different from remington's, the borden's action is straight while in remington the back end base is lower than front end, also Jim uses 8-40 screws which is much stronger thant Remington's 6-48(??I think)
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:28 PM
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Re: Single-shot VS. repeater action

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Once in a while, a many-kilo-dollar benchrest single-shot action based rifle will come close to equalling what they've done.



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Equaling?! At the last benchrest match I was at, there was not one, I repeat, not one factory action anywhere to be found. If the holy Winchester m70 was really as sacred as you claim, I would be shooting a fleet of them and so would everyone else who's worried about top notch accuracy.

Sure, if you're building a varmint rifle or an accurate hunting stick, a factory action will be fine but to say that it beats a finely crafted custom action all the time sounds like talk from somebody who stood in a bucket of distilled water holding a keyboard in a lightning storm!
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:40 PM
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Re: Single-shot VS. repeater action

As for your question about repeaters and single shots, Jerry Stiller has an answer for you. He is the maker of the Predator, Viper, Cobra, etc. actions which are on all the actual (not made up) competitive firing lines all over the world.

To determine the answer to this, you have to test with a 6ppc to get the best pure results because it is the most accurate cartridge in the world to date. Jerry took an action and cut his famous "drop port" into the bottom of his single shot actions to see if it was faster with extraction. Once he made the hole big enough for the ppc and br, he increased the hole size to see if it would be as stiff or stiff enough to shoot as well and by golly, it started getting too much flex and was not as accurate as his smaller hole and solid bottom actions.

Now, for varmints or big game or just informal target shooting, the repeater has no noticeable reduction in accuracy. And maybe even in 1000 yard br it is hard to notice, but in 100 yard br-where you could lose by .001" of an inch, the solid bottom action or versions thereof are the undisputed king.
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:50 AM
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Re: Single-shot VS. repeater action

Thanks GG, that's very helpful information. The rifle will be definitely a field gun, to be able to shoot 1000 yard will be nice but it's bit impracticable here in New Zealand, just think how long I have to walk [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Re: Single-shot VS. repeater action

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As for your question about repeaters and single shots, Jerry Stiller has an answer for you. He is the maker of the Predator, Viper, Cobra, etc. actions which are on all the actual (not made up) competitive firing lines all over the world.

To determine the answer to this, you have to test with a 6ppc to get the best pure results because it is the most accurate cartridge in the world to date.

[/ QUOTE ]If the 6PPC's the most accurate cartridge and the Predator, Viper, Cobra, etc. actions are of the same ilk, how come a .308 Win. fired from a Winchester 70 action based rifle has shot smaller 10-shot groups at 600 yards than anything else?

If one's concerned about .001-inch accuracy changes at 100 yards, they'll spin all their bullets at 30 to 40 thousand RPM with a special tool checking them for balance then use only the perfectly balanced ones. This has been done before with incredible results. But you'll be lucky to get more than a dozen perfectly balanced bullets out of a box of a hundred.
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