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Old 07-30-2005, 01:28 AM
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Simple Butt-Hook / AWP rear rest idea

For those with rifles with butt-hooks (particularly Jeza and his new AWP) here is a ridiculously effective, simple and cheap rear-rest idea, that I would recommend:



It’s 2 bits of pvc-covered metal garden cane and some tape.

I do ALL my prone AWP shooting using these since I find the bean-bag/sock idea too low. Under ideal conditions (or in a tunnel range) I regularly attain 0.3MOA with this rest. In the field I expect 0.5MOA.

I carry 2 versions at all times in my smock pocket, a 5” and a 9” to suit ground conditions/bipod height/shooting angle.

The tape padding at the tips allows you to ‘lock’ the rifle vertically even if this rear rest is canted/uneven due to ground.

In use; make sure the rest is not vertical, but leaning back slightly into the butt-hook. Use your butt-hook hand to grasp both rest and stock. On hard/dry/very soft ground you may need to use this grasp to prevent the rest from splaying.

[Jeza, With the AWP, lean firmly into the front bipod. Be conscious of the surface you are on, if hard (dry mud etc), I recommend you put a jacket/similar between the bipod and surface for consistency of MPI. Then simultaneously lean down firmly on this rear rest]

Hope this may be of help!
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Old 07-30-2005, 03:23 AM
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Re: Simple Butt-Hook / AWP rear rest idea

Brown Dog, I have used same for many years and actually prefer them to Harris style bipods*

You might find it's performance improving if you attach 3 legs. The last one will be a little shorter and affixed at the "V", not protruding into it and disturbing the rifle.
This variant is almost universal in height as you just change the angle of the legs, and it's certainly more stable.

*(if I could have the Sako TRG bipod I'll take it - superb pice of equipment, very stable as rifles centreline is BELOW the bipods pivot point. I haven't tried them, but I believe the new bipods Sinclair now offer will give the same effect)

Where do you stalk in UK? I visit Dumfries every year.
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Old 07-30-2005, 05:59 AM
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Re: Simple Butt-Hook / AWP rear rest idea

Have you tried the accushot ASAI rear monopod for the AI rifles, it is alot better than their usual product and more expensive. I have one on mine. At the moment I am sorting out if it will be better with the PH bipod or Harris BRms. Used it at Bisley in the F class with the Harris, it was a lot better than the rear bag with the AI. Sporting Services in the uk might have one or two in.
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Old 07-30-2005, 08:57 AM
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Re: Simple Butt-Hook / AWP rear rest idea

Sierra22

99% of my stalking is North of Salisbury. The 1% is at reds in Inverness-shire; to which I normally make one pilgrimage per year ...this year I'm going up twice [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] in Oct and Nov..... a bit of rugged terrain, the chance of a blizzard, demanding fieldcraft and the possibility of some challenging shooting make for my idea of Nirvana! Presumably you're primarily after roe in Dumfries?

ds

Interested on your feedback on the AI accupod. I've never had 'hands-on'with one -it's quoted height range seems too low for anything but horizontal or upward shots off a putting green [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
...are you only able to use it with the AI bipod set on minimum height?
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:45 AM
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Re: Simple Butt-Hook / AWP rear rest idea

Brown Dog,

First some measurements,in cm`s. If you measure the left hand side panell along the edge that runs next to the barrel and receiver and extend that edge to the front and rear of the stock, not including butt spacers the distance comes to 71cm. At either end of this 71cm I formed a right angle and measured distance to ground with both pods and the rear pod fully extended and fully closed.

Heres what I got, with the Harris BRms 6"-9" model. legs closed 19.5 cm to ground measured from front of stock, max rear pod elevation 23cm measured from rear of stock.

What you get is a 3.5cm decline over a distance of 71cm. guess the bullet would hit the ground about 15 yards in front assuming being fired from a level putting green.

With max extended legs and min rear pod extention 27.5cm at the front and 18cm at the rear. A steep incline.

PARKER HALE / AI. With legs closed and rear pod extended 23cm at the front and 22.5cm at the rear. Not quite horizontal.

With legs extended and rear pod min extention 30.5cm at the front and 18cm at the rear. Good for shooting space ships.

Thoughts, the Harris bipod offers more versitility, but also sits low, depending on build (I am small) this may not be comfortable, especially the butt pad. I use the AI adjustable one but this still only gives 2cm more elevation on the butt pad.

I think will work fine with the Harris, it should be possible to balance the rear pod height and bipod to be comfortable and stable and work. Less so for the PH but still good a lot of the time. It may be possible to squeeze and extra 1-2cm of adjustment out of the pod by shortening the female thread the male thread runs in. Not sure yet. The male thread is only a long hex bolt.

The pod folds down and back on the press of a button and works on a cam system. Very good, very neat and everything made in steel.

I did some photos if you would like them PM me your email addy and I will send them.

David
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Old 07-30-2005, 12:36 PM
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Re: Simple Butt-Hook / AWP rear rest idea

Brown Dog,
Not sure if this would work but you might consider holding the two legs together with two pairs of rubber "O" rings, one pair vertically between the sticks and the other pair at right angles, horizontally. Works very well for longer sticks.
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:51 PM
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Re: Simple Butt-Hook / AWP rear rest idea

I have got the rear pod on as DS says it is very well built I will give it some stick tomorrow morning and report back.

Thanks for the technique advise I was going to ask that exact question.

My first attempts were rubbish due to me being all over the place 1.2MOA.

Quite a shock to the system, I imagined that I would fall straight back into it and shoot sub moa.

Mind you I dont no what load it likes yet either.

Cheers

Jeza
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