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Old 11-21-2011, 05:31 PM
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Seeking advice on Long Range Rifle Construction

Hello all,
To begin, I am fairly new into the realm of Long Range Rifles and am seeking the wisdom of others to help mold the right gun for the job.
I am wanting to build a long range rifle to hunt deer at around 1000 yds. I have looked into a couple directions:
Scope: Nikon Monarch Gold- not sure what magnification and size is needed, or is there a better brand?
Barrel: Looking for a handmade, Krieger? but what specs should i look for in a barrel?
Action and trigger: Savage Accu-trigger or a Shilen trigger
Stock: no clue- was wanting to keep it cheap, but if it effects accuracy, what would work?
Caliber: maybe a .308 not sure what is needed? not to sure about this field..

I have read about converting a Remington 700 long action to a 300 win mag. Is this something worth pursuing?

As you can probably see, I do not know much about this subject, but am wanting to learn more. I do not want to spend over 1500 to 2000 dollars. What should I do and what direction should I take with this gun? I want to enjoy the process of building it as well, and learning the art as I go.
I hope I didn't sound too stupid in writing this, but this is currently where I am at,
Please Help!

Lee W.
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:52 PM
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Re: Seeking advice on Long Range Rifle Construction

Your lack of knowledge is quite evident in your post but that's not a bad thing so what I would suggest if you're really set on building a custom rifle is to find a competent rifle smith locally if possible. Have a conversation with him as what you want and want to do. He can guide you as to components and how things go together. A custom rifle from scratch will probably exceed your budget.

There are a number of excellent rifle smiths that are sponsors on this site that I'm sure would be glad to give you a hand.

Good luck with your project and welcome to this site. Lots of info to be found here.
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:42 PM
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Re: Seeking advice on Long Range Rifle Construction

There's a thread "don't be intimidated by dollars" on this site you should read.
I once had a Ruger #3 .375 Winchester I taught kids with, safe, accurate, and reinforced the point when you're a 200 yard shot I'll get you a 200 yard rifle. You leave out a bit so I'm guessing as to what you have, and what you're level of experience is. The point isn't to demean, rather to encourage you not to skip over levels of development. This takes trigger time, and it's tough to beat a good 308 Winchester for cost effective. There are a ton of used target/heavy sporter/varmint/ tactical style 308's out there, wear one out, or get to where it's holding you back (which is actually a hell of a ways). Slowly acquire some of the accessories, upgrade a scope here and there, learn to reload. Again guessing as to experience etc.
I'm shopping 308's for all of the above reasons, and just missed buying one that sold while I was driving too hard a bargain, but like I said there's a bunch out there.

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Old 11-21-2011, 11:18 PM
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Re: Seeking advice on Long Range Rifle Construction

Rather than start with a custom rifle, start with a quality factory rifle and work with it as your skills and knowledge increase.

As an example, Remington 700 SPS is available multiple calibers (if you want to take deer at 1k yards, consider 300winmag) and does not cost a lot of money. Dick's Sporting goods as SPS's on sale right now for $449 plus $50 rebate from Remington. Remington 700 is a great platform to start with as everyone makes aftermarket parts for them and every gunsmith works on them.

If you go this route, start with the stock rifle and take it out and shoot and start getting to know your rifle. Then things to consider in upgrades...

Upgrade stock - there are lots of good options out there. Spend some time in the gun photo section here and you will see lots of different styles and in varying prices ranges.

Adjust/Replace Trigger - rough and/or heavy triggers seriously affect accuracy. By tuning the factory trigger or replacing it with a quality aftermarket trigger you will certainly notice the difference.

If/when you upgrade the stock, have it bedded.

consider lapping your bolt lugs.

Consider recrowning the barrel.

As an example, here's my nephew's rifle. It started life as a basic rifle...

Nephew's Transformed Rifle!
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:51 AM
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Re: Seeking advice on Long Range Rifle Construction

In all honesty,......Stop right there and give up right now if that is all your budget allows for.
After the rifle build and unless you can come up with some more green backs you are really out of the picture with your budget right now.
This is really an expensive sport, call it what you like.
After the rifle build come the precision scope (big bucks), reloading dies, cases, projectiles, primers, electronic scales, reloading press, trim dies and the list goes on
if you are serious and so you should be with his sport.
My rifles with scope and all reloading accessories cost me around $13,000 before I pull the trigger.
Anything cheaper just will not deliver the goods.
Think it over, just trying to be nice with all this.

OMO here

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Old 11-22-2011, 02:23 PM
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Re: Seeking advice on Long Range Rifle Construction

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In all honesty,......Stop right there and give up right now if that is all your budget allows for.
After the rifle build and unless you can come up with some more green backs you are really out of the picture with your budget right now.
This is really an expensive sport, call it what you like.
After the rifle build come the precision scope (big bucks), reloading dies, cases, projectiles, primers, electronic scales, reloading press, trim dies and the list goes on
if you are serious and so you should be with his sport.
My rifles with scope and all reloading accessories cost me around $13,000 before I pull the trigger.
Anything cheaper just will not deliver the goods.
Think it over, just trying to be nice with all this.

OMO here
So my two longrange rigs that cost $5k and $4800 respectively aren't good enough to shoot longrange?

My 260 by MCR

My 300RUM by MCR
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:22 PM
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Re: Seeking advice on Long Range Rifle Construction

Respectfully disagree ridge rider, I don't know what the Australian dollar is worth, or the difficulty of importation, or shooting situation is down there so maybe your advice is sound locally. Here without leaving the desk Cabelas gun library has a nice nearly new FN PBR in 308 for $895, CS Tactical shows several Vortex scopes in the $500 range, $300 bucks will get you 500 rounds of loaded ammo. local rifle club has loaner spotting scopes. Another range has steel to a 1000 yards, $1700 and you have an entry level setup you can enjoy for quite a bit. At this point a new shooter is playing and learning, and deciding how far he wishes to pursue this hobby.
For $13000 I coud put together a pretty nice set up, and take it to Africa for plains game.
More good shots are made than born, and that making process usually includes entry level equipment. We acquire better along the way. Is there high dollar stuff out there I ooh and ahh over absolutely, but $13000 or go home ? It's not that bad yet!
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