Thanks for the review. It is fantastic to recieve info from a reliable, experienced source. I have been anxiously awaiting the arrival of these units. I have yet to try an rx4, but was dissapointed with the rest of the line.
The question remains,for me, which rangefinder? I have looked through the bushnells, and leicas. I would like the inclinometer. The bushnell offered the ARC feature, and seemed to have nice optics. I didn't like the rifle mode. You had to choose a ballistic group, then the unit displayed line of sight yardage, incline, and bullet drop based on a "ballistic group". It obviously calculates horizontal distance, just doesn't display it.
I would like to see the rifle mode function exactly as the bow mode, only further. Unless you could input your own ballistic info for your various rifles/loads/etc. I also thought you could use this rangefinder by doing some drop comparison work (or perhaps a cosign chart), and including inches of drop on your drop cards (which I currently don't).
I would be greatly interested in a review of the bushnell 1500 with arc, or any other rangefinder with similar features. Is anyone using this bushnell? Burris? Is there another with the features the leupold is supposed to have, that works??
I am still waiting for our rep to get us a set of the RX4's to play around with.
I still recommend the swaro's as the all out best rangefinder for long range shooting. nothing i have seen can compare to them and me and Bill Bailey are selling them to guys on this forum right now for a price lower than you will find anywhere!!!!!!!!
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I just received a new Leupold RX-4 from Cabela's on Tuesday. They had been on order for a couple of months. I'm a newby with rangefinders and this is the first set I've ever used. I thought the compass and thermometer would be a nice addition but after finding out you have to disable other features to use them, I wouldn't have wasted my money. After nearly going blind cycling through the mode menu, I finally got them set for >150 yards, 1st target mode on, TBR mode on and ballistic group B on. I calibrated the compass and was ready for ranging. I used them out the door of my shop at around 10:00 am. Bright sunny day and around 85 degrees. I could range horses pretty easily out to 240 yards. There is a big oak tree in an opening and I could range it at 591 yards. There is a treeline on the other side of the opening at around 1000 yards and I never could range them. This is a tree line that is 1/2 mile long with 30-40 ft. trees. Were building a shooting range and have telephone poles in the ground at 100, 200, 300, 400, 500 and 600 yards. I could range the 200 and 300 yard post pretty easily. I was having trouble getting a reading at 400 yards on the poles but finally did when using a tripod. It seems you have to hold the button for at least 3 seconds to get a reading at that range. Seems if you release the button and move off the target it won't get a reading. I next tried the 500 yard post and never could get a reading. I got a friend to drive down the range and turn his pickup broadside at the 600 yard target. I never did get a reading at 600 yards. He moved the pickup to 500 yards and I got one reading at 516 yards while he was driving to the target. Once there I never got another reading. I went back through the menu and turned first target off. Still no reading. I turned rain mode on, still no reading. It was around 90+ degrees at this time but I would have thought that a supposed 1500 yard rangefinder could range an extended cab, full size GMC pickup sitting broadside at 500 yards. The range is mowed and flat so it wasn't like there were other objects in the way. The other thing I didn't like was with >150 yard setting turned on, I couldn't get it to read when ranging the 100 yard posts. I had to go into the menu and turn it off. Not very handy having to toggle it off and on depending what your ranging.
Completely disappointed is my review. I'm boxing them up today and sending them back to Cabela's. I own 14 Leupold scopes so I'm also a Leupold kind of guy. I'm ordering the Swarovski's after I make sure they credit my card for the Leupold's. It they were advertised as 500 yard rangefinders and only cost $200.00 I wouldn't have been suprised at their lack of performance.
Well, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Leupold customer service is second to none. I have yet to find any company in any field with their finger on the pulse of it's customers like Leupold.
Within hours of my first post on this thread, I was contacted by Leupold and they have been in almost constant contact with me or 7mmrhb on this rangefinder for the last week or so.
Although we have failed to get this particular unit to range farther than 850 yards in any mode whilst talking on the phone to the head engineer of the unit, I must admit that they ARE concerned with what us long rangers have to say, and they want to correct any problems that we have.
They really do care what we think, and they peruse the net to see what is going on. That is very satisfying.
Kudos to Leupold, and let's try another unit and run it through the tests!
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Patrick Mundy and Laura Peter(fellow shooter and design team leader)of Leupold have been great to work with. Laura called and took us trough the settings to make sure the right modes were being used, and addressed our concerns. These are both good people who are working very hard to make a new product perform to the publics expectations.
I sent them a list of Likes and Dislikes which we talked back an forth on for days. Here is the list.
Pat I have completed my testing of the RX IV.
As with all new products there are going to be both good and bad things come to light as you well know. Iím disappointed to say that there are more negative things to say about your new range finder than good things.
Good things include;
Size and ergonomics( feels good in your hands)
OK opticsócomparable to Leica
Thermometer( if you remember to keep your thumb away from the sensor)
TBR( True Ballistic Range) and degree of angle function
The Laser and or receiver are sub par.(a 1200 Leica will beat it easily)
The TBR is disabled at 800yds.
Change of modes to range past 800 yds ( the 150yd tab to range past 800yds is strange)
Change of modes to range under 150yds
The rotary menu is difficult and confusing.(there are going to be tons of complaints)
The power button is hard to push making it very difficult to hold still.(even on a tri-pod)
The SET button would only lock in the mode after several presses many times allowing
the power to shut down and making you start over.(very frustrating)
The MOA and Hold function are only valid at one elevation and weather condition.
In the west, a hunter could be hunting at 4500 ft to 11000 ft in the same day .
The time it takes to display the yardage after pushing the power button is too long
compared to the other brands
Will not range real world objects,(rocks, trees, brush,) consistently past 650yds.It ranged to 800yds only three times in hundreds of tries in perfect conditions w/tri-pod. The longest range achieved on a live animal(Horses and cattle)was just under 500 yds on a light colored horse.
Would not range a grassy 10* slope in full sunlight at 350 to 700+ yds while the Leica
would read instantly on grass or dirt well past 800yds. And on brush and rockís
on up the same slope, the Leica gave quick, consistent readings to 1185yds
Longest range achieved was a polished aluminum trailer at 936yds that was perpendicular to my line of sight and a white house at 887yds. (I tried to range dozens of buildings beyond that with no luck
These tests were as unbiased as I could make them against two different 1200 Leicas. The Swarovskis will just kill the Leica for pure ranging ability, although it has some things that could be changed for the better also. (better carrying case- better aiming reticle)
The old 800 Leicas Iíve used in the past would top the RX IV as well, comparing ranging ability only.
Iíll say this one more time, If the range finder wonít give you the range, all the rest is meaningless. I would love to see Leupold give Swarovski and Leica some real competition but this RX IV will not even come close!!! Roland
We have been told they will get us another unit to see how it compares to the original. We'll let you know how it goes.---7mmRHB
GG, thanks for the info. Aways back was trying to decide if I wanted the RX-IV and would return my new Elite 1500 to Cabela's to get it.
Decided to keep the Elite since the delivery dates kept getting pushed back. In fact, my local Cabela's still doesn't have an RX-IV.
After reading some of the posts in this thread am glad I did.
From another thread:
I did some quick testing outside of Cabela's in the middle of the day with an Elite 1500 and a Leica 1200 Scan.
The farthest I could range was 1049yds with both units. They both ranged the same objects with an approx 2 to 3 yard difference in readings. The Leica was a bit harder to hold steady with its push button. It's also not waterproof, but the Bushie is.