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Old 06-09-2011, 10:28 PM
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Re: Rem 700 build options....HELP!!!!

Here are my thoughts....

Cartridge:
To take an elk at 1k you will want more powder than the 300wm. Consider 300RUM or bigger. If you like the 30calibers, 1:11 twist is all you need unless you decide you want to shoot the 240grain SMK then you will need 1:10.

Barrel:
In order to realize all the performance the big magnums can deliver, you will want to be 28" or longer.

Brake:
Look at the brakes that have three or four large ports on either side although a radial brake may work, I'm not familiar with anyone using a radial brake on a big magnum though.

Center Shot Rifles makes a great brake called the Muslce Brake.

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Stock:
Be sure to match the stock to the style of hunting/shooting you intend to do. Given that you want to shoot 1k at game, you should consider the stocks with a vertical grip as a first choice. McMillan, B&C, HS Precision, Manners all make good stocks. Be sure to bed your action into the stock.

Gunsmith:
One of the best, Kevin Cram (an LRH sponsor). www.montourcountyrifles.com

He built two of my rifles:

My 300RUM by MCR

My 260 by MCR
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:49 PM
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Re: Rem 700 build options....HELP!!!!

I really appreciate the advice.
trebark, what is the coal for your 300 RUM? I have thought about changing the chambering but I was wondering if the length of the RUM would be a problem. Would it create an issue requiring me to use the wyatt extended mag? I really do like the RUM cartridges.

Again thank you for the information.
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Old 06-11-2011, 12:53 AM
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Re: Rem 700 build options....HELP!!!!

Looking at the COAL of the 300 win mag vs the COAL of the 300 RUM, I would need to change the mag and modify the action anyway. Maybe instead of stopping a the 300 RUM I should just go to the 338 RUM so I can take advantage of the higher BC bullets. Does this sound like a better plan? I already have a savage in .308 so do I really need another 30 cal? Any thoughts on this?
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:38 AM
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Re: Rem 700 build options....HELP!!!!

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I really hope I can use one of the gunsmiths from this site, at least then I know we have the same views on long range hunting. I am still in the process of learning so please bear with me. Is there any reason you would suggest a 26" barrel rather than a longer one?
Preference.

27" is the longest bbl you need even though I have 2 at 28". If I did it over again, I'd go 27" max. I don't like big heavy rifles. Just my preference. Plenty of hunters taking game like bear and elk at 1000 with 8-9 pound rifles.

The 300 WM is plenty to cleanly take any elk at 1000 yards. My preference would be a 26" barrel, maybe a #4 or 5 contour

I have a 300RUM with a 28" barrel, #4 contour Shilen select match bbl and it is about as heavy as I like. And it shoots very well.

When I draw (notice I wrote "when") for my limited entry elk tag, I'm taking one of my 7mags and my 30.06 as back-up because much of the area allows for close shots where we'll be. There are also long range opportunities where I'll tote the 7mag. Here's what the specs are:

26" Krieger #4.5 SS 9 twist
MCM stock
Predator action
Jewel trigger (1 pound)
No scope yet, still shopping
Bullet will be either a 168 VLD or 180 VLD, whichever shoots. Nosler brass, Fed 215M primers, and either Retumbo, H1000, Re25, or perhaps Ramshot Magnum.

The .06 shoots 180 Sciroccos into a sweet little hole at 100 yards and about a 4" to 5" group at 400. I'll take a shot at an elk at 500 or less with it

In the event I go to CO and buy an over the counter elk tag, the same 2 rifles will go.
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Re: Rem 700 build options....HELP!!!!

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Looking at the COAL of the 300 win mag vs the COAL of the 300 RUM, I would need to change the mag and modify the action anyway. Maybe instead of stopping a the 300 RUM I should just go to the 338 RUM so I can take advantage of the higher BC bullets. Does this sound like a better plan? I already have a savage in .308 so do I really need another 30 cal? Any thoughts on this?
You've gotten pretty good advice thus far, esp. on using the sponsor gunsmiths.

Anyways, Hart Rifle Barrels can install barrel on customer's action. Includes price of barrel, squaring action and lapping lugs. Please specify contour and barrel length. Prices for 1.250" OD & under is $650 for standard bolt action. As others have already noted, the .300WM is capable of taking elk at the range.

If you're considering the .338 route, Joel Russo has a nicely priced Wby MK V, 340 Wby, Fibermark
for sale for $800 for your consideration.

Please understand that at that range it does not happen overnight, you need other equipment to give you accurate environmental readings (range/distance, wind, cant/inclination, etc ...), proper loads, optics, stable platform, etc ... - practice, practice, practice.

Good luck and happy safe shooting/hunting!

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Re: Rem 700 build options....HELP!!!!

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Looking at the COAL of the 300 win mag vs the COAL of the 300 RUM, I would need to change the mag and modify the action anyway. Maybe instead of stopping a the 300 RUM I should just go to the 338 RUM so I can take advantage of the higher BC bullets. Does this sound like a better plan? I already have a savage in .308 so do I really need another 30 cal? Any thoughts on this?
I am not sure if your action would need to be modified in order to accommodate the 300RUM. Check with a gunsmith. I'm pretty sure that Remington only makes two actions LA and SA.

I am unsure of the COAL of my 300RUM load as I measure it with a Hornady comparator on the ogive of the bullet.

BTW...was just out today shooting the my 300RUM. Just so that you are aware, 300RUM has sufficient power to kill both groundhogs AND crows!

Holy crap! just realized I am replying to this thread under my buddy Jmason's screen name. Sorry....TREBARK!!
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:48 PM
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Re: Rem 700 build options....HELP!!!!

Groundhogs AND crows huh? well overkill is better than underkill. I will be contacting a smith here in the next week to discuss future plans with the rifle. I will probably just keep it a 300 win mag for now and start acquiring parts to build a 338 on a custom action. But I am going to go with a BC medalist stock, jewel trigger and a muscle brake on this build. I will probably go with a 28" barrel just so I can use every little grain of powder I can in the casing. Thanks again for all the help guys.

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