Originally Posted by phorwath
I understand where you're coming from. Whoever answers the phone for Leica is obviously delivering 'the company line'. There's no way that Leica's technicians can possibly be unaware of the fact that the performance of their CRF 1600 units is inconsistent and variable. Their final QA/QC testing needs to include more than - does the unit turn on and range a distance.
Like I said, there was about a 400 yard difference in the ranging capability of the two units I tested. The first one didn't measure up for a LRF advertised as a 1600 yard unit. The second one does.
Test drive first. Then purchase.
Just to add to this... this is what I've played with so far:
1) The Bushnell Fusion ARC Binocs (huge, heavy, and range great, optics sorta suck)
2) The Bushnell Elite ARC 1600 (same size as the Swaroski, ranges well, lots of options [target vs brush], angle, etc. Best reading on an NON-HAZY day, 1801 yards. Very senstive to ranging from a bright surface area (think sunny day with white stone roof, white sandy area, or newer white concrete surface). Lifetime warranty on Elite labeled products. Optics OK, much better than the Fusion Binocs.)
3) Swaroski Laser Guide (the "gold" standard. No extra options (like the two bushnells or the Leica). Best range was 1836 yards. DOES NOT HANDLE RANGING THROUGH CLOSER TARGETS WELL [e.x. ranging through two trees with the LRF reticle anywhere near the trees gives you range to the trees, not the distant object behind them]. Senstive to ranging from a bright surface area (think sunny day with white stone roof, white sandy area, or newer white concrete surface). Lifetime recalibration from Swarovski(!). Optics are excellent.)
4) Leica CRF 1600 ("Great when it works." Small laser apperture; able to range in between distant objects, as opposed to having a bush mode. Gives you usable information, such as barometric pressure, angle, MOA/MIL info. Need to buy an adapter to use it with a tripod. Optics are excellent. Unfortunately, you need to test the unit prior to taking it home, and the distance must be over 900 yards to know that you likely have a good one. Even then, as with the one I got, it would report a range of 1200+ yards, but google earth would show it was wrong... If you can find a reliable vendor that will pretest for you... do that.)