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Old 07-28-2004, 08:22 PM
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Palm Pilot/PDA ballistic

What suggestions do you guys have for hand held ballistic programs that work in pda's or palm pilots?
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Old 07-28-2004, 08:51 PM
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Re: Palm Pilot/PDA ballistic

Dave,

I have Pesja's ballistic software for my PDA. Very simple and works well. It is a very simple program without bells and whistles.

Stay away from the Horror, oops Horus ballistic program. That is the worst written program I've found.

hope it helps
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Old 07-28-2004, 08:54 PM
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Re: Palm Pilot/PDA ballistic

Jeff, please explain what is wrong with the Horus software and compared to what that did it correctly.

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Old 07-28-2004, 10:04 PM
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Re: Palm Pilot/PDA ballistic

i have perry systems and it works great in my palm m500.
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Old 07-28-2004, 10:33 PM
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Re: Palm Pilot/PDA ballistic

Randy,

I down loaded the free trail version and started to play with it. They use something called a C1 drag model. This ballistic model is in none of my ballistic books.

You cannot changed drag models as it only uses a C1 drag model. Therefore the ballistic calculations treat all bullets regardless of type, shape or design the same.

I took their example ballistic data and ran my own numbers. They are simply using Mayevski Ingalls G1 drag model. The Mayevski Ingalls drag model is based on a 100+ year-old calculation using a 1 inch 1 pound round nose projectile as its basis. So what Horus is really sayingÖ. any type of bullet regardless of shape can be calculated using the same mathematical model.

So if I have a two different bullets with very close BCís, say a 600 grain .458 barnes round nose spire point bullet with a published G1 BC of .454 and a 160 grain .284 cal sierra spitzer BT with a published G1 of .455, both leaving the muzzle at 2600 per second they are going to have the same aerodynamic flight characteristics. I think not! Thatís not rocket science!

Iíve run into many shooters who have evaluated the Horus system in some of the tactical competitions Iíve competed in. Bottom line from their perspective, it sucks. Out to 400 yards it works fine, but beyond that itís a crapshoot and doesnít work as advertised.

Iíve been able to use Pejsaís program to match my actual data on my loads very accurately. You just have to play with the retardation coefficient on his program, which is pretty simple and straightforward.

Hope it helps
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:19 PM
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Re: Palm Pilot/PDA ballistic

Dave,

Here's Pejsa's homepage. Like I said for the PDA the software is very simplistic and easy to operate.

Best of luck.

Pejsa's Ballistic home page
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Old 07-30-2004, 11:25 PM
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Re: Palm Pilot/PDA ballistic

I'm not a big fan of the horro system either and there scopes with all those lines and hash marks seems to me a bit more than whats needed but to each his own and if it works for someone great, I'm just not that interested in it.
Jeff your pesja software, do you have a link where I can view this and what type of pda do you have and what os system do you have on it?
Kidcoltoutlaw your perry software same question as above.
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