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Old 07-14-2014, 03:41 PM
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Re: need mcmillan stock style help A3 or A5

Thanks for going to the trouble Truc. The stock for this particular rifle will be at a best guess 95% bipod or resting on something as the 243 is a varmit which is fairly heavy in the front then add that nightforce Hmm, bit of weight there. The other 5% will be the one that I miss that needs a follow up shot. I'm thinking now that the A3 or A5 should serve me well for that so thanks for helping me get back on track and realize this is a varmit setup . Some days I also just enjoy going down the range and letting 20 or so rounds off on the bags. OK I'll drop the sporter, and now there are two to choose from. Do you have an adjustable cheek piece ? and was it worth it
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:54 PM
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Re: need mcmillan stock style help A3 or A5

I have an A3 on my 28" Sendero barreled 300 Win Mag. I do not have an adjustable cheek piece. The problem I see with an adjustable cheek piece is how can you make sure you have it at the same height each time you lower it to remove the bolt. It might be simple and someone else will speak up but for me when everything is the same all the time you will be a better shooter. The weather and wind will creates enough havoc.
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Old 07-14-2014, 08:28 PM
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Re: need mcmillan stock style help A3 or A5

Thats a very good point regarding the adjustable as I never thought of that. Just been on the mcmillan website and I somehow missed another stock option. Its the remington varmit, it dosnt have as much comb drop as the sporter but has a raised cheek piece after requests from shooters to suit the larger objective bells which should be fine with a NF scope 50mm obj. Has 2" forend for range or varmit shooting so appears to be the best of both worlds for me I think. Cant see going wrong with this one on the 243 maybe except I dont know if the pistol grip on an A3 is the better option. Does it make a difference having vertical grip? Sorry for all the questions but im now down to either the varmint or A3.The decision now is A3 with vertical the verical grip, better moulded section for the thumb and possibly adjustable cheek piece or the varmit with slight drop in comb and raised cheek piece. This is not an easy decision as its going to costaround $1100 down here
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:35 AM
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Re: need mcmillan stock style help A3 or A5

Given the choice between the A3 and the A5, I have opted for the A3 with an adjustable cheekpiece. Here's why....

When shooting prone and making elevation adjustments the bottom of the A3 buttstock is 'straight' so a rearbag slides smoothly forward and back. Whereas the A5 has a cutout that does not allow for as much adjustment.

Both of my stocks have the adjustable cheekpiece. Maybe it's just my physiology but I prefer to have the cheekpiece pretty high and an adjustable cheekpiece is the only way to get that high (my rifles have Leupold MK4s with 50mm objectives, so they are 2" above center of bore).

In terms of positional shooting, both of my longrange rigs are regularly used in tactical competitions. This means shooting from standing, kneeling, sitting, prone, urban prone, off barricades, off trees, off a pack...all kinds of crazy positions. The A3 performs very well in all positions.

As I said, given the choice, I take the A3 over the A5. I talk the talk and I walk the walk....

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Old 07-15-2014, 02:35 PM
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Re: need mcmillan stock style help A3 or A5

Ok thanks for all your help and good sound knowledge. Its good to hear from guys that have field use. It appears from all your advice and some searching the interent that the A3 is very popular so Im going down that route with the adjustable cheek piece as it would be better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, so glad that decision is out of the way, thankyou. That internet searching has led to more questions so,if I can get some further advice on what adjustment type on the cheek piece. Ive read somewhere that the wheel type comes loose? then theres the allen key type, which do you all prefer and is it better to have flush cups front and rear. Can a bipod be mount with flush cups and finally why do some buttstocks have a flush cup on one side. Does this make it more comfortable for a sling over the shoulder? Thanks again
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Old 07-15-2014, 07:53 PM
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Ok thanks for all your help and good sound knowledge. Its good to hear from guys that have field use. It appears from all your advice and some searching the interent that the A3 is very popular so Im going down that route with the adjustable cheek piece as it would be better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, so glad that decision is out of the way, thankyou. That internet searching has led to more questions so,if I can get some further advice on what adjustment type on the cheek piece. Ive read somewhere that the wheel type comes loose? then theres the allen key type, which do you all prefer and is it better to have flush cups front and rear. Can a bipod be mount with flush cups and finally why do some buttstocks have a flush cup on one side. Does this make it more comfortable for a sling over the shoulder? Thanks again
Here's my advice on your various questions....

Cheeckpiece - good decision to go with it. You are right, it is better to have and not want than to want and not have. As for the securing system, I went with the single thumb knob to lock it in place. You can see the knob in the pics. I am unsure if the 'wheel' type slips or not. I would not go with the allen key type as this would require that you have a tool anytime you want to make an adjustment.

Flush Cups - put them on opposite side of your bolt (not on the bottom). One on the side of the forearm and one in the side of the buttstock. You want them on the side because your rifle will be very tall and if the sling points were on the bottom, your rifle would 'flop' over while being carried. By putting them on the side of your rifle, it will lay nice and flat/stable when being carried. It's also more comfortable.

Sling Stud - put one on the 'normal' position on the bottom of your stock. This you will be where you will connect your bipod.
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:31 PM
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Re: need mcmillan stock style help A3 or A5

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Here's my advice on your various questions....

Cheeckpiece - good decision to go with it. You are right, it is better to have and not want than to want and not have. As for the securing system, I went with the single thumb knob to lock it in place. You can see the knob in the pics. I am unsure if the 'wheel' type slips or not. I would not go with the allen key type as this would require that you have a tool anytime you want to make an adjustment.

Flush Cups - put them on opposite side of your bolt (not on the bottom). One on the side of the forearm and one in the side of the buttstock. You want them on the side because your rifle will be very tall and if the sling points were on the bottom, your rifle would 'flop' over while being carried. By putting them on the side of your rifle, it will lay nice and flat/stable when being carried. It's also more comfortable.

Sling Stud - put one on the 'normal' position on the bottom of your stock. This you will be where you will connect your bipod.
Excellent glad I asked the questions. Will make sure I add these options to my order. Now I just got to decide on a color but I wont ask for help with that as there are plenty of colors posted here and elsewhere. Thanks all againfor great information and being patient with me. Will post a pic when I recieve it probably around 8 months time, maybe earlier if im lucky.
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