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Old 09-05-2012, 09:56 PM
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Sidecarflip is right. It can get really cold here in the winter. Before I moved the guns out there, I tried two of the electric oil filled heaters set on medium range and temperature set at 60 for a month and the electric about gave me a heart attack. So electric heaters is out.

I was looking on Tractor Supply's web site and had a couple catch my eye. They are ran by propane and hung on the wall. So it won't ever get tipped over.

I'm still looking and still up for suggestions. And I have to have it done within the month. Being a farmer, I'll getting in the fields soon.

Jason
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:58 PM
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Gee Jason, I farm too........

Not a row cropper, I'm a custom forage harvester and grower. You can have that corn, wheat and beans stuff. Give me alfalfa and cowgirls......

At least you had rain out there, not much, but some. I'm in NW Ohio every week, sometimes multiple times.

Problem with the TSC ventless propane wall heaters is, when you burn propane, it make water vapor as well as carbon dioxide. The heaters have a Co sensor that will shut them down if the O2 level drops but the moisture that is created could be an issue. You might have to actually install a dehumidifier in the room to keep the ambient RH at about 50% or you might have a rusting issue, even in the winter.

They are efficient and propane is at an all time low. I just filled 3-500 gallon tanks with non-dryer gas for $1.28 per gallon, delivered. Dryer gas, I believe is around $1.05.

All that fracking in Pa is driving the prices way down.
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:37 AM
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Both you guys are lucky. It gets darn cold here and stays cold (except last winter) and the OP isn't that far from me and in the same temperate zone. December, January, February and early March are cold, usually many days below freezing and some days below 0, with snow and more snow. I tend to sit in front of the fire and vegitate.

No matter what system he uses, he will still have to have a humidifier because any heating drives out the moisture. You ideally want the ambient RH at 50% or a bit better. keeping a room 60 with 50% humidity 'feels' comfortable when a room at 60 with 30% RH feels cold. Reason being is that at 30% RH, your body's fluids are evaporating off your skin and making you feel cold. At 50% RH, that don't happen and you feel comfortable

Electric heat of any type id the most costly per BTU created with oil second, propane third and coal last. Free heat is a woodlot out back but most folks don't have that. With a woodlot and an outside boiler and heat exchangers in the building, heat is basically free.

After living in lower Michigan for 3 years I took the easy way to solve the cold problem,
I moved to Texas.

Down hear we have the opposite problem, Heat. And it cost a lot to cool so we go to lengths to
insulate, and that pays off very quick.

My shop has an R Value of 31 and stays cool with out any air condition for several days of
95+ temps.

Extra insulation might be something to consider also. It works hear.

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Old 09-06-2012, 07:24 AM
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For sure (insulation). We have expanded foam in the house plus wet cellulose.

Out in the shop I have R21 in the ceiling and 14 in the walls under the drywall.

You do have a couple things we don't here. Fire ants and wild hogs........

Any Kuszu out there??
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:38 PM
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For sure (insulation). We have expanded foam in the house plus wet cellulose.

Out in the shop I have R21 in the ceiling and 14 in the walls under the drywall.

You do have a couple things we don't here. Fire ants and wild hogs........

Any Kuszu out there??
We have almost everything but Kudzu. It is more north and east from us.

Note: A friend needed to replace the exterior on his man cave and he increased the R Value by
adding felt paper (Another vapor barrier) then R 5 Foam board and then Hardy board (A type
of concrete siding that doesen't need painting or maintenance every few years) and he didn't
have to empty the building to improve the insulation. (Easy)

He claims that it has cut his cooling/heating cost in half.

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Old 09-06-2012, 09:36 PM
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Re: Heating a reloading/gun room

Thank you all the info. By the way, I am also using Goldenrods in my safes from day one. And I also put an hydrometer in the safes to see what the humidity is in the safes. So far they are working great. Keeping the inside around 50%. With the air conditioner, it's about 75o and 53% humidity in the room.

When I kept the guns in the house I never had any problems with rust in the winter time. Where I kept the thermostat set at 62 during the day and night and 65 when we are home. (Wife would like to have it warmer but we live in a old farm house)

Sidecar, do you chop corn for dairys? We grow about 8-900 acres for the dairy around us. We have a custom crew come to chop. This year they were from the Kalamazoo area.

Jason
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:55 PM
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No, all hay. I/we do custom forage for people that own hay ground, tried to make their own because they thought it was easy (looks easy) with old equipment and found out it wasn't.

I have an Alpaca Lama operation, a Standardbred Breeder and an equestrian operation and one feedlot owner, about 90 acres total. Rounds and squares, all NH equipment, Kuhn accumulators, JR Long Grapples and Kubota large frame tractors and we (my partner and I) do wheat straw in small squares.

We have it down to never getting out of an air conditioned cab other than to check the net wrap or the twine box, or take a leak.

90 acres, 4 times a year is a lot of hay. This year was only 2 times. Very dry here.

I actually considered building a boiler that would burn a whole round bale (like they do in Europe). In Europe, they have furnaces that take a round and run for a week without reloading. Our Clearspan is usually pretty full of rounds.
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