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Old 02-24-2013, 10:30 AM
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I suggest you investigate the ones I linked above as well as Fort Knox and other similar quality brands before making such a broad statement.

For the $1000-1500 models you see in most stores you are correct. However, you do get what you pay for. Pay attention to wall thickness, materials, and other factors. Most of the ones made with drywall walls (aka "fireboard") are junk.
You can buy a lot of years of Armscare insurance for even 1500 bucks. I look at it this way. You have them in a safe with the door closed, they are basically not available in an instant if you need them, in my case handguns...and, if your dwelling burns, it still gets hot in the safe so are the firearms still serviceable? Good question. How much heat will a snot stock take or a wood stock prior to degradation? How much heat will optics take before the internals go wacky? I don't know but with arms insurance, you don't need to know.

Much easier to replace them with new ones or take a cash payment, actually, that might not be all bad. Kind of a 'gun buyback' program but ACV instead of mandated by the gummit.

With Armscare other than being a member of the NRA, you don't have to list each individual firearm unless the aggregate value is over (I believe $2500.00). Under 2500, it's on your word.

The driving force for me was checking my homeowners insurance and seeing what they pay upon scheduled loss. My carrier pays $2500.00 total. That covers maybe 2 units. Not enough by a long shot.

I don't want to loose any but if I do, at least they are insured. You know about insurance, you live in Michigan like I do.

I consider any and every insurance policy just that unless you need it. Sort of a just in case scenario.

I just can't see spending a couple grand on a gun cabinet, I don't want to say 'safe' because the only thing safe is the firearms are safely out of your availability should you need them quickly.

IMO. a large sheet metal linnen cabinet would work fine for me. Just so happens I have a specially designed and built closet with storage.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:28 PM
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I have them insured too. Best of both worlds.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:19 PM
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Get a liberty safe. they are awesome and have a great warranty. made in the us.
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:04 PM
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I have them insured too. Best of both worlds.
A wise choice but over on your end of the state, the only issue is central Muskegon and thats not much.

We have Toldeo to the South and Detroit to the north, almost forgot Dearborn.

Most everyone around here has central station alarms, we do. No wailing siren, just a call to the state police and county sherriff.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:53 PM
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I like your style flip.......much the same myself. I have game cameras on my place that record comings and goings.....and i have a backhoe. nuff said.

we are getting to be way to concerned about being politically correct. i understand that those of you who live in the big metro areas have to do things a bit different. safes are probably a smart thing, but please remember to keep one locked and loaded and handy, and you might as well buy the cheaper unlined models, cause if you have a real fire, none are going to protect your assetts. trust me , i know.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:27 PM
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I like your style flip.......much the same myself. I have game cameras on my place that record comings and goings.....and i have a backhoe. nuff said.

we are getting to be way to concerned about being politically correct. i understand that those of you who live in the big metro areas have to do things a bit different. safes are probably a smart thing, but please remember to keep one locked and loaded and handy, and you might as well buy the cheaper unlined models, cause if you have a real fire, none are going to protect your assetts. trust me , i know.
Actually, I'm in the middle of a remote area though going south 15 miles puts you in Toledo and north about 60 miles is Detroit. I'm 1.5 miles off the paved road on a dirt road with no neighbors to speak of so if a car comes down the road, it's usually a local and we all know who drives what. Just 2 miles south of Cabelas in Dundee. Close enough to poor.

I have a backhoe too. Case Extenda-hoe.

I've always wondered about the 'fireproof' safes. I have a Diebold Jewelry safe for the wife's stuff and it's walls are at least a foot thick as well as the door. You open it up and look at the small space inside, about big enough for a cigar box. It weighs at least 700 pounds, maybe more and it's only 3 foot high x 3 foot deep by 3 foot wide. I would imagine it would survive a fire with no issue....but don't want to find out. It's more of a burgular thing. She has lots of nice stuff....including me.

Most of the fireproof gun safes I see advertised have a one hour fire rating. I don't see where 60 minutes is enough and whats the temperature inside after 60 minutes? Wood (as in stocks) ignites well below the melting point of metals, I think, could be wrong but around 600 degrees???
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:24 PM
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I have one of these and I'm happy with the quality... "Armory" Tall 45 gun safe 2 hour fire 1880 2013 L.E.O Special
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