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APS .270Wby Continued

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Unread 05-19-2006, 10:21 PM
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APS .270Wby Continued

Hi All,

Went to the range today to do some more testing with non-magnum primers as suggested from the first thread. I got to the gate and realized that I forgot to pack my chrony. Oh well, next time I will have velocities.

I loaded several different bullet types at various seating depths using IMR7828 and Federal 210 primers.

The results seemed to improve.

Kirby, I still have not received my new stock, and I just can't keep my fingers off this rifle so I just have to shoot it the way it is. That said, I still think this rifle shoots damn well, bedded or not.

First some pics of my dies. I use the Forester full length re-sizing die and Micrometer seating die as suggested by Kirby. They are the best value out there.

I use old cases to make overall length templates for setting up the micrometer die for different bullets. The Ogive is different for each bullet type. So once I find the best over all length for a bullet type, I make a dummy round that I use to set up my micrometer seater.
At first I tried to write down the measurement off the dial, but forget that. It's way too hard to read the dial.

Above is a pic of some loaded bullets with 140gr Accubonds. Currently my favorite bullet for this rifle.

All loads above were loaded with Federal 210 primers. The Lower Left group of .375 was IMR7828-69.5, 140 AB, 3.390=OAL. That group makes me very happy.

Target-2 shown above has a .43 group. Same loading as above but OAL=3.400. This also makes me happy.

Target-3 shows something interesting. I had some 140gr, Barnes XBT bullets. First shot was thru a just cleaned barrel, the other 2 shots were touching. In the next target I used a 145gr Swift A-frame bullet. I had the same situation but barrel was not cleaned and the first shot went in low and the next 2 were on top of each other. These bullets refused to shoot thru my old barrel, but show promise in this one. I will have to test more. The brass on that low one might have been at the end of its reloading life.

The image above shows the inside of my barrel. You can see a copper streak. The rest of the barrel is spotless, just this one stubborn streak is in the barrel (at least near the muzzle where I can see). Must be a slight groove or something. I have to use a Que tip with Barnes Copper Solvent to get this one spot out. Don't know what the rest of the barrel looks like inside, no bore scope.
When Kirby sent me the rifle, he shot one round thru it. It took me about an hour to get it clean. This streak was in there at that time. The rest of the barrel seems to be cleaning up easier each time I clean it, but this streak is bugging me. Is this normal or is this a nick in the barrel from cutting the rifleing. Any opinions?

All in all it doesn't seem to be affecting the accuracy as it seems to be shooting pretty well.

Well that's all for now. Next report will be after I receive the new stock for this rifle.

Take care,
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Unread 05-20-2006, 07:15 AM
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Re: APS .270Wby Continued

Looks like for most of your groups, there are at least two shots very close and then a flier. I suspect once you get the rifle bedded in that new stock you will see a dramatic improvement in consistancy.

For the bedding you have now, some of those groups are extremely impressive.

I would not worry about that streak in the muzzle much. Keep cleaning the rifle often, it will smooth up eventually. It is not uncommon to see this in a new barrel. Keep cleaning it often and make sure you get her down to bare metal everytime. This spot will smooth up soon.

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Unread 05-20-2006, 08:32 AM
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Re: APS .270Wby Continued

those groups are starting to look a whole lot better than the other ones...I'm sure you'll be be shooting clover leaves as soon as you get the stock
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Unread 05-20-2006, 08:41 PM
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Re: APS .270Wby Continued

Kirby & lovsdasnow,

Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. Kirby thanks for the barrel copper streak tip. This being my first rebarrel, I don't exactly know what's normal and what isn't. So thanks for putting my mind at ease.

See ya,
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