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Old 01-26-2007, 04:46 PM
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Re: Allen Mag Shooters Group -In the interest of sharing info

Kirby may put a shell holder in with the dies. Double check with him first.
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Old 01-26-2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: Allen Mag Shooters Group -In the interest of sharing info

NYLES,

You might also consider picking up a good ballistic program like Exbal, and if you want you can also pick up a handheld PDA that you can also install Exbal on and have your load data in the field with you. It sure makes those trips to the range nice to plug in the current conditions and adjust to them. Plus while your waiting on your rifle it will give you plenty of time with that 300 to learn all about how to tweek your BC's in.

As for loads, well if you look back through this post you will see several listed. It really depends on just where your at, and your normal conditions for that area. Down here, we are running decent velocities, but are still behind most of the loads by 6 - 8 grs. THose Wildcats like to be kept up close to the lands, but I advise starting about 10 off to get things going. IF your planning on fireforming your cases, you might try 98grs of the 872 with the 169.5's or even a 150gr Nosler BT. I use that load with some old 150gr Solid Bases I had on hand and it shoots around an inch and a half at 500yds. They start out at 3460fps. Pleanty of get up and go to even use as back up rounds out to about 700yds. They shoot a touch higher than the 169's at 500 but it is easy enough to crank down if need be.

I would suggest that you pick a weight and buy enough to last you a while. As has been mentioned, Richard gets busy and till he is done farming it up, your gonna have to wait on bullets. IT always seems to be the wrong time to run out. LOL That is another reason I am so happy with the 150gr SB load. I always got something just in case. Also the Wildcats seem to shoot better the faster you run them.

On the powders, I have noted that everything we have used is subject to some degree of change. I have however noted that it seems to not be quite as bad with the stiffer loads. I picked a velocity I wanted to shoot and when I got there I then worked on groups. I would rather run it a little slower and make it last than top it out and toast it. Still 169.5's @ 3250 and the 195's @ 3100+ isn't too shabby at all. You will definately not have to worry about expansion or penetration with either of them out to 1K.
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:31 AM
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I started with WC872, will probably stick with it, its temp sen. but its as good on the barrels as anything else.( high graphite content is what makes it temp sen. and easy on barrels) I've noticed that to about 70 degrees its pretty consistant, after that it goes kinda haywire, but I load 5 gr less for shooting 80 degrees and up and its just about the same velocity as my cold weather loads.
My barrel is 30" plus brake so you'll be ok with a 52" case. yeah a pda/handheld with exbal is very desirable.
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:49 AM
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Which site is Wildcats bullets current....I need to order some bullets! Can I use a credit card? Or do I mail in the order?

Cant call from work.

Will 2 boxes of 169.5 Ultra Low Drag Hollow Point Rebated Boatails be enough for a good start. (will use something else for fire forming AC, BT something of that nature)
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Which site is Wildcats bullets current....http://wildcatbullets.com/indexOld.htm

Phone # in upper right. Call in the evening. Work out payment details with Richard.


Can I use a credit card? No.

Will 2 boxes of 169.5 Ultra Low Drag Hollow Point Rebated Boatails be enough for a good start. 200 bullets would be a good start. But I'd recommend at least 4 boxes, just on general principles. There is just a bit of inconvenience when you run low.

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Old 01-29-2007, 11:38 AM
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Re: Allen Mag Shooters Group -In the interest of sharing info

When we sent our order in we ask for 2000 of the 169's and 1000 of the 195's.

Hell the money you got, just cut him a check.

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Re: Allen Mag Shooters Group -In the interest of sharing info

"Ultra Low Drag Hollow Point Rebated Boatails"

Roy,
You say 4 boxes? 400 bullets.....OK! but thats about 5 years worth! but Ill have it all tuned up pretty good! with leftovers.

I hope I dont have to shoot that many! but your right never hurts to have another 100 around....two other pluses I do have a 270 win and paw in law has a 270 WSM. So they could be used in more than one gun. More general practice on reloading shooting for groups what not while "THE BIG GIRL" gets her beauty sleep!
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