.416/.338 Cartridge?

[RedAllison]

Its basically already offered, albeit a pricey alternative to "doin it yourself". Check out the Lazzeroni Titan.

All I can say is LIGHTS OUT!!!
RA

[sdiehn]

would this not be the same as the 338 lapua?????

[MOA]

No, It's has no resemblance to the Lapua. Use the SEARCH button and you will find a wealth of information on both these chamberings.

[Fergus Bailey]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> would this not be the same as the 338 lapua????? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, ignoring case taper and shoulder angles, the 338 Lapua is shorter and hence has less case capacity than the 338/416.

The 338/416 tends to be popular with the ultra long range hunters as they are trying to ring out as much velocity as they can get for down range performance.

Fergus

[sdiehn]

well got out my custom cartrige books by Ken Howell

the 338-416 is 2.7100 in leanght and a case volume of 148 grains of water

the 338 Lapua Mag is 2.7244 in leanght and a case volume of 158 grains of water

[Paul Wyatt]

I don't know what cartridges Ken is referring to, but the 338/416 that I am familular with is 2.900 inches in length (shoulder 2.407 from base and .573 inches in diameter). My version of QuickLOAD shows the maximum case capacity of the 338 Lapua as 108 grains of water, while the 338/416 has a capacity of 139.52 grains of water. There is no way a Lapua can be expanded to the case volumn of a 416 Rigby case IMHO.

[JBM]

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Amen. I just measured my .338/.416 and the brass (trimmed) is 2.892" overall. From what I've read of the .338 Lapua, you can get better performance with the .338/.416. I built mine for the 300 grain Matchking and I can get it moving at about 2900 f/s with a less than max load. Accuracy is good and I get about 15 reloads per case (100 cases last for one barrel!). I have pushed it as high as 3100 f/s but accuracy was lousy and brass life was essentially zero.

When you start adding up costs don't forget barrel wear. I get about 40 cents in barrel wear every time I pull the trigger.