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Old 01-13-2008, 10:35 PM
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280 Rem or 300 Win mag.

I am going to have a rifle built for me. I am having a hard time deciding on having it built in 280 rem or 300 win mag. I have shot and owned several 300s but about a year ago I started shooting a 280. I have been using a 140g bullet and I have had great results with accuracy. I am going to use this new rifle for general hunting. I will use it in the midwest for Whitetail and out west for Mule Deer and Elk. I am not looking to use it for Moose or Bear. I already have a rifle that I am pleased with for larger game. I really would like to keep the weight down and I can save a little weight with the 280. Not much but a little.

On top of all of this I have really caught the long range bug. I think I can do a better job overall with the 300 win mag but I really find the 280 to be interesting.

Please let me know what you think. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:01 PM
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I'd go with a 280 Ackley , burn less powder , shoot flatter very good bullet selection , just about everything you need and if you have a gun for heavier game the 280 is a perfect middle man.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:18 PM
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James,

Thanks for the reply. Is the 280 or 280 Ackley going to be a good long range cal.? I think it will be great for deer and since I dont know enough about it I ask, do you think it is possible to use it as a long range elk gun? For now and probably for quite awhile I have access to a 600 yard range to practice on so that is what I am considering long range.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:55 AM
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I'm new here, but I've read that for ethical body (vital) shots on elk one should have arround 1200ft/lbs of energy. To get this out of your 280 or 280 AI you would have to select a fairly heavy High BC bullet like Hornady's 154gr .525 BC. I'm sure you'll find pleanty of bullets that could fit the bill. If you're planning on head and neck shots you can obviously do with much less energy. I'm sure some of the senior members could give a more precise answer.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:43 AM
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The 280 Ackley is a great long range gun , for deer the 162gr A-max will work great out to 1000yds and for Elk the 160gr Accubond will be good out to 600yds , you should be able to get close to 3000fps with a 26" barrel and the 160 class bullets , I have heard of guys getting over 3100fps with that but not sure about their pressures.
Untill yesterday I was iffy about usinf the Berger bullets on game at long range but they worked great on to deer I shot running the 140gr 6.5's at 2850fps one deer shot through the shoulders at 944yds and one in the neck at under 500 so you can get better BC bullets with the Bergers.
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:29 AM
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Ok. That helps. I want to use a 280 but I had the feeling the 300 would be better. You have helped convince me that the 280 will work for my needs. I own a standard 338 and a few 375 H&H so I am covered on the heavy end (for me at least) for now. I like the idea of a flat shooting cal and I think the 280 Ackley sounds like the way to go. I hunt deer a lot more than elk. Non-Res. Elk tags get expenseive and most of the guys I hunt with cannot afford that so we Whitetail and Mule Deer hunt instead. I however wanted to make sure I could get my once a year shot on an Elk if the shot presented itself. Sounds like I can with a 280 Ackley.

Now for the gun. James, I saw that you suggested a 26" barrel. I was going to get a 24" for the 280 rem. Is a 26" better for a 280 Ackley?
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:36 AM
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The 24" barrel will work fine the 26" just lets you squeez that last extra bit of velocity out of the case , I have an uncle that shoots a Holland built 280 Ackley with a 22" barrel and loves it , he shoot 150gr Ballistic Tips at everything under 600 lbs out to 800yds. The gun started out with a 28" barrel (Rem varmint conture) and it was heave so he has 4" wacked off to drop some weight and only lost about 100fps with his load of R-22 the next year he wacked off another 2" (1" off chamber and 1" off muzzle) and only lost 40 fps.

That little extra velocity will not kille your energy at long range so its not that big of a deal , especiay since the bullets will likely shoot better at a bit lower speed
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