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Old 11-25-2011, 09:27 PM
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Re: 1 gun for all???

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You missed two great bullets, the 165 Matrix with a .650+ BC and the 175 Matrix at .700+BC. My accuracy load for the 165 is running 3053FPS idling and the 175 3014 FPS. Hard to beat out to a 1000yrds and I took a bull at 865 yrds easily with it this year. Really when you look at what is available and what gets used the 270 does not lack bullets any longer!!

Thanks for setting me straight.
That is defintly impressive, All I have to go by is the 5th edition nosler reloading guide.

With what your getting for velocity what length is your barrell?
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:47 PM
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Re: 1 gun for all???

Can't go wrong with a 300 win mag or a 7mm RUM
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:56 PM
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Re: 1 gun for all???

What you need to do first is pick the bullet you want to shoot. Then you need to match the case to the bullet to the velocity you want to push it. The grain weight you said you wanted 165? This puts you at the top end of the 270. Mid to top end of the 7 mm and low end of the 30 cal range. Have you ever made a drop chart for a rifle to shoot to 1000? I'm just asking to see what kind of shooting experience you have?
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:18 PM
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What you need to do first is pick the bullet you want to shoot. Then you need to match the case to the bullet to the velocity you want to push it. The grain weight you said you wanted 165? This puts you at the top end of the 270. Mid to top end of the 7 mm and low end of the 30 cal range. Have you ever made a drop chart for a rifle to shoot to 1000? I'm just asking to see what kind of shooting experience you have?

Yes I would agree I need to decide on a bullet. I thought I had decided that I wanted to go with berger bullets, BUT after hearing of the matrix bullets and seeing his velocity. I am second guessing my choice of the berger.

No I have not made a drop chart. I have no exsperience in long range shooting, I trully envey those of you that do. I trully hope that someday I will be able to make the long range shots. That is the reason I am trying to figure out what I want. Because this will be the only center fire rifle that i will have, which makes me want to make sure it can do what I want it to when the time comes.

I do apoligize for my ignorance on the subject at hand, and I also do appreciate all the helpfull insight that everyone is giving me. I am also a member on alot of other forums, so I know what its like when a newbie comes in asking a million questions about what should be an easy answare. I am trying NOT to be that same guy, I am using all the searches I can with as few and as many words as I can to get the correct information. I can really see that this sight is packed with very skilled and knowledgable people so I sure dont want to burn any bridges.

Please dont misunderstand my wants, I am an ethical hunter and realize that just because the gun I have built will be capable of taking game at said yardages I WILL NOT even attempt to try it outside of my comfort range (right now I am confident out to 350). My hopes are that when the gun is built for ME. I will be able improve my shooting abilities gradully.

I have been playing with the ballistics calculators entering the data from the nosler reloading manual and i am comeing up way short with all of these cartridges (well alot of them). I haven't had enough data to use the calculators for the berger bullets. My thinking was if i could find a suitable cartridge and bullet from the nossler book then I would be well rounded when the time comes for the berger. BUT that was before I knew anything about the Matrix bulletts.
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:14 AM
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Re: 1 gun for all???

One thing to think about when it comes to bullets pick a grain weight you want to shoot where there are a wide selection in that weight. What if you choose a matrix bullet and your rifle does not shoot that bullet well and no one else makes a bullet in that weight? Pick a grain weight where several manufactures make bullets in that grain weight.

The next thing you need to think about after you pick your bullet and case is your rifle weight. The more your rifle weighs the less it will kick.

I thought I had to have a 300 ultra mag. I ended up buying a Remington 700 sendero. To make a long story short the gun kicked so hard that I could not shoot it accurately. Everytime I went to pull the trigger I flinched. It was miserable to shoot. Today I do shoot a lot of larger calibers but my rifles weigh 20 lbs with muzzle breaks. Which make them pleasurable to shoot.

There are no dumb questions that's how you learn. Keep reaserching and asking questions. Try to go to some rifle competions and talk to the guys there they can give you a lot of advice plus you can see lots of guns to get an idea of what you want.
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Old 11-26-2011, 06:02 PM
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1 gun for all???

That means, paper shooting, varmints, dogs, antelope, deer, elk..... lots of shooting....
I can't see anything greater than a 30-06 doing it! Even a 243 Win can bust a barrel pretty quick...

If it was me, I would be the owner of a 308 Winch.... Yes... Can be extremely accurate and
with our modern high BC bullets it's not a problem to shoot it up to 1000, 1200 yards
depending on what your shooting. With the right load Elk at 700 yards it's a doer and will
make you really good at reading the wind.

One gun? 308 Winch. will do!

You'll be doing a lot of shooting before you have to worry about a new barrel.
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Old 11-27-2011, 09:34 AM
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I say tell your dad what you plan to use it for and let him surprise you.
Best answer by far. Let the old man put together something for you being his son I am sure his heart will be in it
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