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What gun for grizzly? what do guides use ?

 
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:52 PM
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What gun for grizzly? what do guides use ?

Just talked with a man that just went on a moose hunt in British Columbia with his 2 sons. Trip of a lifetime, however after one moose was down a grizzly had been coming back to the gut pile, so the guide told them to be very careful.

Now I asked him what gun did you have? he told me and I will say I would have liked something a lot bigger than his. What gun did the guide have? He "wasn't sure what it was called" but "it was big"..so I was just curious as to what guides in Alaska and BC use for thier well being on these types of hunts? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 10-04-2006, 11:40 PM
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Re: What gun for grizzly? what do guides use ?

6BR...,

.338 wm & .375 H&H are very popular with guides up here. It's difficult to be overgunned for griz, it's not so difficult for the hunter to be overgunned. You should carry the biggest caliber you can shoot well and have confidence in. Heavier premium bullets are better for deeper penetration. Some guides prefer a barrel of about 20" for close in work and in the alder thickets. The .30-06 with 200 gr. Nosler PTN's will get the job done but I prefer to think of the .338 wm as a practical minimum. The .338-06 or .35 Whelen would be fine.

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Old 10-05-2006, 12:14 AM
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Re: What gun for grizzly? what do guides use ?

don't a lot of guides up there us a 12ga with slugs for their back-up gun?? big, heavy lump of lead would hit a charging bear pretty hard!

curious also to what they use....
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:22 AM
 
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Re: What gun for grizzly? what do guides use ?

On of my gun Mags had a year long 100 year anniversary <font color="red"> LOVE FEST </font> of the 30-06. In one issue they detail a Griz hunt with a '06. After seeing a huge black bear charge my Dad after a well placed 200gr from his '06 - I consider the '06 too small for large blackies. Way too small for griz.
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Re: What gun for grizzly? what do guides use ?

I know a fella that guided up in BC for a while and he liked a 458Win mag and said that alot of guys used them , the recoil isin't overly abusive , the power is realy good and they preform well with a short 22" barrel. I would think that anything from 375 H&amp;H would be a decient charge stoper for griz.
I have to say though , I sure love my REm 870 thats setup as a patrole shotgun , I can rack off 8 WELL PLACED shots of 3" mag 000 buck shot faster than 99% of guys can shoot 2 from a bolt gun thats 60+ 33 cal lead balls , I'm thinking that a griz is only gonna take so much of that before decides he doesen't want anymore.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:59 AM
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Re: What gun for grizzly? what do guides use ?

6BR..,
There seems to be two different schools of thought on the back-up guns used by bear guides. 1st is the short carbine in a heavy cal. such as 45/70, .450 Marlin, ect. or iron-sighted bolt actions from .338 Win - .458 Win for close encounters in thick cover or stopping an attack. The latest trend seems to be that the bear guides are starting to become more like the African PH, in that they are using a scoped rifle to make an immediate follow-up shot to avoid tracking a wounded bear. The .338 and the .375 are most common but the .416 is gaining in popularity.
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Re: What gun for grizzly? what do guides use ?

My brother in law guides in AK for sheep and bears. In the open country he carries a 338 Win mag, in brush country he favors a lever rifle (8 shot) in 50 Alaskan. After a couple of less than fun experiences he was making noise about a 416 Rem.
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