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Unread 04-17-2007, 04:25 PM
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Re: Virginia Tech

I did a Google search for a time-line on the events (Link below):

9:45 a.m.
The VT PD received a 911 call of a shooting at Norris Hall, which contains faculty offices, classrooms and laboratories. VT PD and Blacksburg PD immediately responded to Norris Hall. Notice in leadership command center via our police rep of a shooting in Norris.

Upon arrival to Norris Hall, the officers found the front doors barricaded. Within a minute the officers breached the doors, which had been chained shut from the inside.

Once inside the building, the officers heard gunshots. They followed the succession of gunshots to the second floor. Just as the officers reached the second floor, the gunshots stopped.

The officers discovered the gunman, who had taken his own life. There was never any engagement between the responding officers and the gunman.

Now if someone has some other source I would like to know where the police "hung around"!
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Unread 04-17-2007, 04:28 PM
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Re: Virginia Tech


Monday morning dawns with students getting up early to head to class.

At the West Ambler Johnston co-ed dorm, home to 895 students, there's some kind of incident, and shots are fired. Police are called and find two people dead. They conclude it was an isolated domestic dispute and that the danger is over.


The doors of Norris Hall open for the day, as students enter the engineering building to go to class. Nothing seems out of the ordinary.


With many students unaware of the violence in their midst, word of the dorm shooting comes in a widely distributed email that's received across the campus.

"Subject: Shooting on campus," the header reads.

"A shooting incident occurred at West Amber Johnston earlier this morning. Police are on the scene and are investigating.

"The university community is urged to be cautious and are asked to contact Virginia Tech Police if you observe anything suspicious or with information on the case. Contact Virginia Tech Police at 231-6411.

"Stay attuned to the . We will post as soon as we have more information."

As far as authorities are concerned, whoever fired the shots has escaped the sprawling grounds of the university and is gone. It is now a police matter and officials decide it's safe for classes to continue.


It's now more than two hours after the initial shooting and the lines at the Blacksburg, Va. 911 outpost light up en masse. Panicked students call on their cell phones to tell authorities a man has come to Norris Hall and begun randomly firing weapons at people inside.

His first target is a professor in one of the classrooms. He then turns his weapons on the stunned students.


Police stop a man they describe as a 'person of interest' in the dorm shooting. "That individual was an acquaintance of the female victim killed at West Ambler Johnston Hall," explains Police Chief Wendell Flinchum. "He was stopped and detained for questioning. As officers were interviewing him, the shootings at Norris Hall were reported. We're still looking to him for information as the investigation continues."

A second email is sent out by university brass. This one is far more terse and a lot more chilling.

"Subject: Please stay put," it begins.

"A gunman is loose on campus. Stay in buildings until further notice. Stay away from all windows."


Within minutes of the second email, the university starts phoning resident advisers and asking them to knock on the doors of classrooms and dorm rooms, to spread the word about the danger faster.

But the campus is huge - some 1,050 hectares in length, described by one official as the size of a small city - and getting to everyone in such a busy environment over such a wide area is almost impossible.

While all this is going on, a gunman continues to blaze away in Norris Hall, picking off victims one at a time in rapid succession. His motive remains unknown, but his methodical task is succeeding all too well. Dozens lie either dead or seriously wounded.


Students trying to escape the carnage find chains on some doors, closing off their only escape routes. As the killer approaches, many break open windows or kick out screens, jumping several storeys to the ground in desperation, preferring broken limbs to the possibility of being gunned down.


The University sends out a third email.

"Subject: All Classes Canceled; Stay where you are.

"Virginia Tech has canceled all classes. Those on campus are asked to remain where there are, lock their doors and stay away from windows. Persons off campus are asked not to come to campus."

Police are on scene, hustling shocked students off the property and away from the area, still unsure what they're dealing with.

Many are told to enter unaffected buildings and wait for the all-clear signal. Others are simply shooed off campus altogether. No one else is allowed on the premises.

As TV stations, networks and the web pick up the story, word starts spreading quickly - there has been a massacre at Norris Hall.


The fourth and final email comes out of Virginia Tech's administration office. By now, just about everyone knows the worst has happened, as ambulances and police cars occupy the campus around the classroom building.

The email contains some details that would later prove to be false, but was based on the best information available as confusion swirled.

"Subject: Second Shooting Reported; Police have one gunman in custody

"In addition to an earlier shooting today in West Ambler Johnston, there has been a multiple shooting with multiple victims in Norris Hall.

"Police and EMS are on the scene.

"Police have one shooter in custody and as part of routine police procedure, they continue to search for a second shooter.

"All people in university buildings are required to stay inside until further notice.

"All entrances to campus are closed."


First reports indicate 22 are dead and at least that number are injured.

But as the afternoon goes on, the scope of the tragedy escalates. The death toll rises to first 29, then 30, and finally settles at 32. The number of injured sits at around 15.

A doctor at one of the local hospitals indicates the gunman was extreme in his cruelty. He fired at least three bullets into every single victim, and all the wounded patients he examined were suffering from some kind of gun related injury.

"There were leg, arm, head, face (injuries), the more critical ones actually had head or facial shots. There were chest shots, leg shots, arm shots. He was just shooting to kill," relates ER physician Dr. Joseph Cacioppo.


It has been more than three and a half hours after the initial shooting, when Norris Hall finally falls silent. The gunman saved his final bullet for himself, leaving the final bloody toll at 33.
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Unread 04-17-2007, 05:30 PM
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Re: Virginia Tech

My initial coments were from what I had seen on the national news. Cops standing around with pistols drawn standing in the street behind everything. I read the newspaper today and the reporting was much better. I don't blame the police or the gun for the incident. It was one man hell bent on a death toll. Sound like the timeline was pretty quick and the individual officers may not have arrived soon enough to be much help.

This story highlights the fact that NO ONE can relly on the police for protection, by the time the call comes and the response time is added, the horror has been done.

Looking at it from my perspective, every law abiding citizen who wishes to be armed should, anywhere they wish. This incident proves it and should be our call to action. Not the anti-gunners next gun hateing drivel.

The familys of the victoms have my sympathy and prayers.
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Unread 04-17-2007, 08:06 PM
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Re: Virginia Tech


I would like to know where the police "hung around"!

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And your point is what?

That THE UNIVERSITY should have cancelled classes! Then I agree.

If your point is that the cops should have solved the first shooting in the 2 intervening hours, then I think that you just have a need to blame people. Perhaps You should offer your services to Law Enforcement......

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Unread 04-17-2007, 10:03 PM
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Re: Virginia Tech

Ladies and Gentlemen,

There is only one (read 1) person to blame for this and that is the little scum sucking maggot S.O.B. that pulled the the trigger.
Now the reason he was successful in carrying out his sick and twisted mission is a whole other story, where do I begin?

I'll tell you fellas something, if any one of those poor individuals (god bless them) were my kid or wife or brother or any family member for that matter, I wouldn't be sitting here typing this, as I'd probably be locked up in a padded room if ya know what I mean???
This old saying says it all, read it and remember it!


God Bless

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Unread 04-18-2007, 07:16 AM
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Re: Virginia Tech

My condolences to all involved directly or indirectly with this tragedy. I don't know if anything was done wrong or right in this case. Logic dictates to us that a dickhead like this guy is not going to be stopped very easily. Anyone willing to die for whatever they feel their "cause" is, is tougher to stop than a jealous husband. I do have a problem with : 1) How passive our country has become. As a group the male race from teen years to about 30-35 are a buch of pussies. Not everyone but the majority I have run in to. 2) The damnned media always wants to blame someone. To them the dirtiest, ugliest point of view is the one to pursue for a story. Not only with tragedies as this but even with sporting events. The media in general isn't very much farther up the food chain in my opinion than some of the criminals.
We need to help these people grieve, we need to look at the way we are raising such a passive group of young men, we also need to quit feeding the media firestorm that always want to blame someone.
This isn't said to offend anyone it is just my opinion. I wish this kind of [censored] would never happen. It seems to me that if some of this aggression was expelled by these losers when they were younger, and if they learned how to take an ass whipping, Maybe, just Maybe ,they wouldn't go off like a time bomb when some pressure builds up.
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Unread 04-18-2007, 09:54 PM
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Re: Virginia Tech

why is a south korean national allowed to buy a handgun? especialy one with documented mental discrepensies. this was methodicly planned, with the mental state this kid was in, there was no way to stop him from trying, but we need a system that would keep him from getting the tools to carry it out according to his plans. his classmates, the police, the school all knew he was unstable yet they let it go, this happened because nobody got involved until the lead was in the air.
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