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Old 09-13-2013, 04:57 PM
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I've been following this thread from the beginning, and I thought about chiming in a couple of times, but I have decided the correct time is now.

I'm relatively new to this forum, as are a lot of other people. Some are like me and have been shooting their whole lives. Some are just getting started after the liberals' and Obummer's attack on guns. These new folks are trying to learn, and as they are just getting started, they may think that 300 yards is a long shot, and it probably is for them.

One thing that is great about all of it is the renewed interest in firearms and hunting.

Being a new member of the forum myself, I have also gotten somewhat frustrated with the redundancy of some of the threads, but the interest of new folks, and what they bring to the table as far as numbers of people on the right side of the fight is exciting to me. The forums would get pretty boring after a while if older topics were not rehashed occasionally.

Just my $.02, and a little more optimistic viewpoint. I have been shooting a lot lately as well

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I'm sure it probably comes off as condescending to say that guys wanting to "know what rifle for hunting a max distance of 300 yds", should go elsewhere to get that info. It's not intended to be. It's just that this is a specialized site and there are a lot of other sites that can provide the "standard" hunting knowledge. Those threads do detract from the purpose of this site which is specialized for long range.

And I'm OK with a topic getting rehashed once in in awhile, but some stuff can very easyly be searched out if folks know how to do it.

Maybe Len could open another miscellaneous or whatever sub-forum.

I know I personally would like to see stuff that pertains to long range shooting and hunting in those forums dedicated to it.

And as far as getting boring, I would like to see members posting their experiences, rifles pics, hunting pics, etc, more. We have a lot of silent members which I think is unfortunate. Loved that high country log range deer thread!
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:20 PM
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Well, not exactly 100% long range. There is a smoke pole (muzzleloader) section and a bow section and handgun section and a photography section so, not all 'long range' stuff. Broz has his own forum and everything there is longrange. I'm not so I go lurk, thats it. Most everything I need is here and the discussions are usually pretty animated.

Personally speaking, I think a totally long range forum is a dead end street because a large part of us don't live west of the Old Muddy and though we hunt out there, it's infrequently.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:31 PM
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Re: Very useful tool ...

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I'm sure it probably comes off as condescending to say that guys wanting to "know what rifle for hunting a max distance of 300 yds", should go elsewhere to get that info. It's not intended to be. It's just that this is a specialized site and there are a lot of other sites that can provide the "standard" hunting knowledge. Those threads do detract from the purpose of this site which is specialized for long range.

And I'm OK with a topic getting rehashed once in in awhile, but some stuff can very easyly be searched out if folks know how to do it.

Maybe Len could open another miscellaneous or whatever sub-forum.

I know I personally would like to see stuff that pertains to long range shooting and hunting in those forums dedicated to it.

And as far as getting boring, I would like to see members posting their experiences, rifles pics, hunting pics, etc, more. We have a lot of silent members which I think is unfortunate. Loved that high country log range deer thread!

I don't want you to feel like I believe you, or anyone else, was coming off as condescending. I was just trying to provide a different angle to look at everything from.

Maybe a "short to mid-range hunting" area for some of the threads would help out.

I also agree, and love to read about other people's hunting and shooting experiences. I would love to see more of those posts as well.



Sidecar - you don't come off as an a'hole in my eyes at all. I have learned quite a bit by reading your posts, especially some of the muzzle loader threads. I also agree with you, and I hope that many of the new shooters and hunters are joining the NRA, as well as writing their senators and congressmen.

I am really enjoying this thread too guys. It is one of the more interesting topics right now...
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:05 PM
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Re: Very useful tool ...

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Broz has his own forum and everything there is longrange.
Actually, I believe that is Shawn's forum. Broz is an administrator.

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Personally speaking, I think a totally long range forum is a dead end street because a large part of us don't live west of the Old Muddy and though we hunt out there, it's infrequently.
Well it isn't very lively there that's for sure. Could be a dead end, time will tell. Hopefully it picks up.

Yeah, I grew up on the other side of the Big Muddy and started my hunting there. I understand that long shots for most are near impossible to get. Seems like a lot of the members from the East are more competition shooters but they make a good contribution to this forum.

I don't mind the other sub forums at all and if Len wanted to put in another forum for other than long range shooting, I wouldn't mind a bit. It's just that when I click into the Long Range Hunting forum, that's what I want to see and read, not about a guy who bought a bow instead of a rifle and not about someone looking for a 300 yard shooting stick.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:09 PM
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I don't want you to feel like I believe you, or anyone else, was coming off as condescending. I was just trying to provide a different angle to look at everything from.

Maybe a "short to mid-range hunting" area for some of the threads would help out.

I also agree, and love to read about other people's hunting and shooting experiences. I would love to see more of those posts as well.
Oh, I didn't think you felt that way but I'm guessing some probably would so I thought I would try to make my position clear.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:53 PM
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Re: Very useful tool ...

I really like playing with the mechanics of firearms, not so much the reloading (not that I don't do a lot because I do), I have 7 hungry for ammunition guys and one gal to load for besides myself so that keeps me pretty busy. Like the ML's. I cant resist playing with them. Besides, here where I live, a centerfire rifle for hunting is a no-no. ML's, pistols, shotguns and bows. At least you can have optics. I don't think I could shoot 50 yards with open sights, even with glasses on. I don't see that good anymore, must be age or something.....

I've gotten to where I have them (the guys) do the 'grunt work', the brass sizing, cleaning and case prep. I do the loads and bullet seating and they box or bag them up so it's not too bad. 2 guys do a bunch of shooting at paper and the rest shoot for the freezer or the wall. All calibers from 17's to 338's and 9's to 44mags. That way I have time for fiddling with guns out in the big man cave.

You might want to read my review on here of the WFT trimmer. I replaced the Redding last month (sold it to a poster on here).

My 'laborers' were complaining of sore palms (not from that..lol) and they and me were having issues holding case lengths across various calibers in quantity and I did some searching and found the Giraud and the WFT. Both share the same principle where the cutter is actually an end mill and the case feeds into the cutter supported by a chambered (in the applicable cartridge group) insert.

You can easily crank out a trimmed case every 6 seconds and across the numbers, we hold +-0.003, something I/we could not do with the Redding without fiddling.

I'm looking at machining a steel/delrin insert for meplat trimming with the WFT, I like to fiddle and I have the tools...

Besides this forum (and all the enjoyable interaction and some not so enjoyable), I like the Hunt'in Fool magazine that Carters Hunting Service puts out every month. I've been a paid member for a while now and I find it invaluable for hunting out west and it has great stories too. Actually, everyone in our group is a member. Bunch of older farts trying to stay young.....lol

I sure enjoy reading all the great adventures on here and Hunt'in Fool. I probably won't be able to hunt much longer or at least high country hunt, my age is against me as well as some other issues but I really enjoy reading about others adventures and experiences. Thats what makes a forum like this great, besides having good people to interact with.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:30 AM
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Re: Very useful tool ...

I believe a "not-so Long Range Hunting" sub-forum would be interesting. However, keeping the ducks from waddling off in all directions is another matter. Len could add the sub-forum easily but, how do you keep that content in that forum?

As mark said, bow hunting & <300yd shooting do not belong in the Long Range Hunting/Shooting forum & unfortunately, nobody is cleaning that up. Those topics are just as valid but they belong somewhere else.

What worries me is, if all of the more seasoned members take the mindset I have (I'm a bit of a pessimist) we will lose the knowledge base & content that brought LRH to fruition. In all honesty, when I open a sub-forum I play in & see what we are all seeing, I move on; I don't post or contribute in any way. I understand my thought process is far from optimal but I'm starting to feel a bit of justification as well.

I do understand that long range for dude-A is not the same for guy-B & that is fine, we have places for everything. For me it's how diluted & somewhat unorganized this forum is getting. When I say unorganized i'm not talking about Len or Andy or anything they do here. I'm talking about topic-A being placed in forum-B & staying there.

I believe we are at a member base to where Len needs some help herding these cats. I try hard not to get sideways with the new guys but i'm not always successful. I was one of them too, but I patiently waited & read until I could contribute something of worth....



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