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Old 10-06-2013, 12:03 PM
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Re: Which Truck should I buy

I just scored a used an 07 Duramax 3500 service truck, I'm taking it out and putting the boots to it in a few minutes. If my research was correct 07 is about at good as it got, I don't have the full emissions package and it has the better Allison.

I'm looking forward to seeing what it will do, my buddy runs a little newer Dodge 1 ton and it was only doing 8-9 MPG and they did a full monty delete on it and chipped it and he's up in the 12-14 range and it went from kind of a dog to lighting his tires up on the top setting. I raced him one day with my other truck which was was much lighter and had a 454 and I was able to stay with him till he flipped the controller switch and he left me in a cloud of smoke and it was not a slow pull away, he blew my doors of!
I'd like to find an early 24 valve Dodge, that engine could breath and had little to no crap on it, put an intake and exhaust kit on it and let it breath easy and it was hard to beat!!
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Old 10-06-2013, 12:07 PM
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The early Duramax have one major issue that was resolved in later years and that is they were sensitive to fuel issues, that is, the fuel filter arrangement wasn't pulling the contamination/suspended water out of the fuel stream and the pumps were having issues. The Duramax is a Japanese (Isuzu) design and the early engines were all Japanese built. They still build intrinsic components BTW.

No Tier 3-4 compliant diesel gets decent fuel mileage today unless you do some electronic fiddling via aftermarket tuners but the most reliable/simplest design is still the I-6 cummins, even with electronic injection. GM is second in reliability with the Duramax and Ford is last. Ford used to be tops with the 7.3 IDI engine but decided to get more power from less displacement and sophisticated engine management and that backfired plus, Navistar knew how to build a diesel, Ford don't. Barring the marriage of ford components with Navistar engine management, the 7.3 was a 250,000 mile before bearing roll in engine.

The problem with the Dodge isn't the engine or the transmission, it's all the rest of the components. Chrysler has little QC, buys the cheapest everything so expect issues down the road plus they rust out faster than a Ford's wheel wells. Ride wise (and ride is important, especially if you take the wife and kids along, GM is tops, Ford is second and Dodge-Fiat last.

My first choice would be a GM/Duramax, as much as I despise Obamamotors, second a Dodge/Cummins because of the component issues and dead last a Ford
even though we are a Ford employee family.

Car wise it's the total opposite, Ford is first, GM second and Dodge-Fiat dead last.

Far as having a Dodge-Cummins puke with low mileage, anyone can have an issue. After all, it's complex piece of machinery thats assembled by humans. Poop happens to all of them. I'm seen them **** the bed before they are sold.

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Old 10-06-2013, 12:16 PM
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Re: Which Truck should I buy

[QUOTE=bigngreen;860958]I just scored a used an 07 Duramax 3500 service truck, I'm taking it out and putting the boots to it in a few minutes. If my research was correct 07 is about at good as it got, I don't have the full emissions package and it has the better Allison.

I'm looking forward to seeing what it will do, my buddy runs a little newer Dodge 1 ton and it was only doing 8-9 MPG and they did a full monty delete on it and chipped it and he's up in the 12-14 range and it went from kind of a dog to lighting his tires up on the top setting. I raced him one day with my other truck which was was much lighter and had a 454 and I was able to stay with him till he flipped the controller switch and he left me in a cloud of smoke and it was not a slow pull away, he blew my doors of!
I'd like to find an early 24 valve Dodge, that engine could breath and had little to no crap on it, put an intake and exhaust kit on it and let it breath easy and it was hard to beat!![/QUOTE]

You have the shop. Buy a crate motor and do a swap. You can buy dressed engines with mechanical injection. The only difference between the early Allison and the late model boxes is the clutch materials were upgraded and the actuation pressue was increased and I think they added an aditional planetary cluster in the direct section. Allisons are hard to beat and impossible to kill.
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Re: Which Truck should I buy

Sorry, I couldn't resist ...



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You obviously have too much time on your hands now.........
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You obviously have too much time on your hands now.........
Maybe so but I'm still multi-tasking ...
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Old 10-06-2013, 04:35 PM
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Re: Which Truck should I buy

I don't get some of the number you guys are posting, the mpg I referenced was towing a 10k trailer with an additional 2k of studs in the back end at 11 to 13 mpg average.

Another one of our horse buddy's is getting 24 average and 30 plus on the highway with a 2005 2500 dodge.

My friend Bruce has a 03 dodge and is getting 23 around town with a banks power upgrade.
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