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Old 01-02-2014, 09:24 AM
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Truck Question

Ok, so I am going to be disowned by my entire family... or at least heckled if I should pursue this purchase. I am first and foremost a Chevy fan, and have had a few Dodge products. I have never owned a Ford. My family are huge GM fans and feel there is nothing else on the market.

So I need a beater and was thinking something small like a Nissan or Toyota midsize truck. The problem is that they are hard to find in the price range I am looking, and should I find something in that price range, it has a huge amount of mileage. So then I start looking for 1/2 ton Chevy trucks. Plenty out there with the mileage I am looking for.

BUT... but I then look for diesels just for poops and giggles. What should come up... you guessed it. A 1999 Ford F250 SD with the 7.3L diesel. And to my understanding this is the motor to go with in a Ford. It is a work truck with a ding in the side of the bed. Not bad, have only seen pictures. Haven't seen the truck personally yet. It only has 95K miles. They are asking $9990 for it.

For you smart truck fellers out there, is this one I should consider. I have always been a Cummins fan and wish I could find a Dodge with the same mileage and price. Chances of that are pretty slim. Looks like the Fords are a dime a dozen. Is the drive train on this thing going to be symptom free, or are there any inherent issues I should be aware of and stay away from this truck should it still be around when I am ready to purchase. This will also more than likely be passed to my boy when he hits 16 in 6years. Can I expect longevity? I will most certainly maintain the truck well. I usually do.
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Old 01-02-2014, 01:08 PM
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Re: Truck Question

Years ago I bought an 83 Ford with the 6.9L diesel that was swore to have 108,000 one owner miles on it, and I checked with the original owners wife ( her husband wasn't home) she said " we loved that truck" and she was sure the milage stated was accurate. I bought the truck and started to have issues very quickly and called the previous owner again and talked the him and the true skinny was it had 208,000 miles on it. Quite frankly, I should have gave the truck to a salvage yard and made certain they crushed it, as I would have come out better money wise. You couldn't sell me a Ford, especially a diesel now. I used to wear Ford blue underwear 40 years ago so it is not just a bias against the blue oval. Check that truck out very thoroughly before you buy! I have a Dodge with a Cummins now and really like it and my S-I-L has an older GM duramax and it is a good truck also.
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Old 01-02-2014, 01:17 PM
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Re: Truck Question

Don't think you can go wrong with it at all. Know a guy that just sold a 99 with 80,000 on it for $20,000. Dad would still have his 2000 that had 340,000 on it but it burnt to the ground in October. The only thing major that went wrong other than burning down was a transmission at 230,000. He did pull a trailer and skidsteer everyday with it. Sounds like a great buy with the mileage on it.
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Old 01-02-2014, 01:20 PM
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Re: Truck Question

Die hard Chevrolet fan and mechanic here. Also raced Chevrolet professionally for a dozen + years for a living. Use to have a sign in my shop that said We repair GM products and we work on everything else. I believe the true list of oxy-morons include "jumbo shrimp" as well as " ford Racing"

Over the years I softened and even bought a ford ranger 4x4 for a beater and second truck in a pinch. What a piece of crap and a whopping 12 mpg even after a full tune and carb rebuild, from a light truck with a v6 and barely leg room for 2. When the engine started to talk to me in the mornings she went down the road. Good riddance.

Just bought a used 05 Avalanche for a second truck my wife to drive. We truly love it. I guess once you have experienced Chevrolet you just need to stick with them. At least we will be.

There is a reason GM stuff holds its value so well.

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Old 01-02-2014, 03:08 PM
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Re: Truck Question

This is coming from a guy that is on his 5th diesel - all dodge Cummings. At work we have tried the ford diesels, the predecessor to the Chevy duramax as well as the current duramax, and a dozen different other Cummings.

Long story short - if it was for personal use I wouldn't look at any of the diesels. With additional price of diesel (about $ .80 per gal more than gas), the price of oil/filter changes, and the cost of repair it just does not pencil out. Unless you are pulling hard everyday, I just don't see the cost effectiveness of a diesel anymore. And don't even get me started on the new models fuel mileage and having to use urea.

I wish someone would come back out with the V10 gas at 11-12 mpg with a straight stick and I could pull with any diesel and do it for less cost/mile..

Every time one of our diesels go into a shop and we get the bill, we just want to gag.

I'd pay the price for a 1/2 - 3/4 gas GMC and never look back.

In my opinion - whatever brand you get, it will only be as good as what the mechanic/dealer is that you use.
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:09 PM
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Re: Truck Question

The 7.3 Diesel is the engine to go with. If you take care of it, it will last forever. I sell to many Ford dealerships around the US and that is the last of the best diesl engines....many later diesels have problems and especially the 6.0
I can't tell you how many of them I saw in crates ready to be replaced by the Ford dealer under warranty.

I purchased a low mile 2002 Ford 7.3, F350 crew a couple years ago with 77K on it and it was not even broke in..

Change the fluids regularly, and get a fuel injection service about every 15-20K and you will be fine.

Note that the Turbo on these is inferior, and you will most likely replace it after 100K...aftermarket designs have been corrected, but if you replace it with an OE one, it will still have the factory defect and go out again in another 100K...
But it is the best diesel that Ford ever made...
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:17 PM
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Re: Truck Question

Thanks guys. Looks like I'm going to stick with a Chevy and a gas motor for a beater.
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