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View Poll Results: Most Accurate Hunting Rifle Out Of The Box
Browning 36 4.41%
Cooper 91 11.15%
CZ 14 1.72%
Dakota 7 0.86%
Henry 0 0%
Howa 14 1.72%
Kimber 6 0.74%
Marlyn 5 0.61%
NEF 1 0.12%
Remington 137 16.79%
Sako 83 10.17%
Savage 292 35.78%
Steyr 11 1.35%
Thompson 9 1.10%
Weatherby 40 4.90%
Winchester 21 2.57%
Other 49 6.00%
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Unread 01-26-2012, 11:48 PM
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Re: Right Out Of The Box----

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I own 3 CZ centerfire rifles and all of them shoot 1/2" at 100 yards with handloads. My CZ 452 shoots 1" groups at 100 yards with cheap CCI Blazer .22LR ammo.

All my CZ centerfire rifles shoot twice as good as their factory targets indicate with good handloads.

The fact that Savage comes out on top in this survey means that Savage outsells CZ (and Sako and a few others) by a wide margin in the USA.

Russian Special Forces use CZ rifles. If Savage was better, they maybe could save a few bucks and it could give them better deniability. US Special Forces generally use something besides standard production rifles, but deniability is their major concern after a certain level of quality is reached. The CZ 75 pistol is one of their favorites. CZ is bigtime popular in the special forces world of many nations as their weapons are awesome in an absolute sense as well as for price. .
I've only owned one CZ and it wasn't a firearm. It was a motocross bike back when I raced motocross in the 70's. Was a royal PITA to start but ran like a scalded dog.
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    Re: Right Out Of The Box----

    This poll is flawed because the tikka t-3 isn't listed. That would be my vote.
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    Re: Right Out Of The Box----

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    This poll is flawed because the tikka t-3 isn't listed. That would be my vote.
    The Tikka T-3 is a budget priced Sako, designed & manufactured by Sako. When Beretta bought Sako they directed the company to make a rifle at a lower price than existing Sakos, thus the Tikka rifles were born. They are still Sakos — even if may owners don't know it!

    Since Sako rifles are listed, Tikka is covered.
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    All true but the Sako is a much better built rifle and much more expensive so to lump the 2 into the same category causes confusion and issues IMO.

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    Re: Right Out Of The Box----

    Remington sendero sf II in a 300 wm, gun shoots same hole at a hundred.
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    Re: Right Out Of The Box----

    Coopers will flat out shoot any of the others listed. It is not even a matter of opinion. I personally would have excluded the Dakotas and Coopers because they are more of a semi custom. Of the true production rifles listed I feel that on average Savages are the most accurate out of the box.
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    Coopers will flat out shoot any of the others listed. It is not even a matter of opinion. I personally would have excluded the Dakotas and Coopers because they are more of a semi custom. Of the true production rifles listed I feel that on average Savages are the most accurate out of the box.
    if you goto a bench rest shoot sometime, check out the firing line. You won't see many (if any Coopers there). It's almost always a Savage or a Remington, and usually Savages.
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