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Old 06-27-2012, 06:06 AM
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Re: Rifle Safes

I have a 5 gun buffalo river safe it cost me $400 plus, but when I was in the states I saw some awesome safes for $900, over here in Australia a gun safe that big would cost about $4000 $5000. In Australia the law is u MUST have a seprate lockable ammo box that opens with a seprate key to hold your bullets. The safe has to be anchered down in to spots ( i.e floor and wall or in the corner of 2 walls ) specified bolts that the goverment tell you to use that's in western Australia the eastern states have diffrent lawsI think, then you must take photos of the safe then go to your local police station and get a officer to sign the back of your photos then you have to send the photos in to the firearms licence department and that's even before you get your told you can have a firearm. If any eastern state Australians read this tell me if you had to go through this much ******** to get your gun licence. When my brother got his licence 10 years ago he didn't have to go through all this nonsense.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:24 AM
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Re: Rifle Safes

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What do you guys have? and how do you like them? I recently ordered a fatboy jr, its not the top of the line but I needed something with a lot of storage and in my price range.
Mike....

I have a cheapo Liberty in the closet that I keep the junk in.

My good guns are elsewhere, out of sight (and mind).

Reason being is that if someone broke in (when we weren't home and got by the human eating dogs that is...), The obvious gun safe in the bedroom closet would be the target of the perp's intent to commit burgulary and the good guns, out of sight, elsewhere, would be spared.... I hope.

No matter what safe you get, they all are pretty easy to get into (with the right tools or a 5 pound drilling hammer, cold chisel and some determination on the perp's part). A safe just slows down the process a bit and buys you some time, but, if you aren't home, the perp has enought time to steal your sruff, anyway....

The best insurance against loss is to have them insured for the actual replacement value. Something I do through the NRA's insurance program (not intended as a plug for the NRA)..... Most homeowner insurance policies only cover loss of firearms up to $2500.00 and that might cover one firearm and optic....might and, with your homeowners policy, you are bound by the deductible out of your pocket. With supplementary insurance, there is no deductible.

and.....

The insurance isn't that expensive either.

Better safe and covered than sorry and gunless.
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:58 PM
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Re: Rifle Safes

Sidecarflip, The cheaper safes might be able to be opened easily with what you describe, but the better safes employ glass relockers. Drill into that glass and the all those 1" bolts STAY locked, regardless if you get the handle to turn.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:29 PM
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Re: Rifle Safes

I profess, I know little about safes and their mechanisms except the diebold half height safe I have in my shop right now that I'm refinishing for my wife. It has to weigh nearly 1000 pounds..... for her jewelry.

I believe, given enough time, any thief could bust about any gun safe the cheaper ones of course quicker.

I'm comfortable with my 'bait and switch' approach and insurance on them too and it's rare that one of use isn't home anyway.

Of course we all hope that we never are the victims of a burglar.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:57 PM
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Re: Rifle Safes

I'm comfortable with my 'bait and switch' approach and insurance on them too and it's rare that one of use isn't home anyway.

Every ones risk assessment is different. Becoming "comfortable" is the goal. As simple as better doors, and windows, or as complex as bunker building. Doing what works for you is what it's all about.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:01 PM
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Re: Rifle Safes

Guess I'm more worried about fire than thieves at this point of fire season in CO. I'm rethinking my non fire proof safe...

Just saw I 70 shut down a few miles north of Grand Junction where I live this evening.

Jack
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:29 AM
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Re: Rifle Safes

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I have a Liberty, but I must say the "advertised" capacity and "actual" capacity don't jive unless you stack your guns in like cordwood. Figure on bolt guns taking 2 spaces, and add another space to that for a scope. Any AR type guns with pistol type grips are challenging as well, as they don't like to stand upright very well.
I guess what I'm getting at is to get one bigger than you think you need, because you will need it. Also, DON'T FORGET A GOLDENROD if you don't want mildew and rust.
Amen! it's like a fricken puzzle to get them to fit in. And the front row is a joke.
Buy twice as big as u need or third bigger min. Mine is a liberty, seems fine. but ya just don't know till some meth head tries to beat the door off or the house burns down around it.

Gene
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