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The Real Barack Obama

 
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:52 PM
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Racism and America

Its peculiar how the racist black leadership and the liberal media have manipulated many good Americans into "politically correct silence" concerning Obama's racist spiritual mentor, Dr. Wright.

So, Obama was not aware of his reverend’s hysterically loud racist views against whites and Jews. For twenty years? I smell a liar.

I am tire of hearing all the complaints about the “black experience” and slavery endured by proxy. Blacks or any other race does not own the trademark for being enslaved. All races throughout history have taken heir turn. Blacks can never earn the respect they seek by having self-pity for something that ended in this country well over a hundred years ago.

I may be considered Hispanic, Latino, or a minority by some. Let me make it very clear to all that I am not a Hispanic American, a Latino American or a minority American, if you will. I am first and foremost an AMERICAN, period.

I am forever grateful to the wonderful Americans (most who are white) that embraced me as their own when I first arrived in the United States of America. I believe my acceptance was so because I aspired to learn English and the American way of life. I have always respected and admired the United States for its achievements, its generosity, and its constitution. One of the proudest days in my life was when I was sworn in as an American citizen. I still well-up with tears when I speak of this great gift I received, what an honor to be a member of the greatest nation that ever existed. Thank you God and thank you America. God Bless our country, God Bless America!
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Old 03-15-2008, 05:57 AM
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What do you mean "evil buisiness owners"? I hope I am completely mis-understanding you. As a buisiness owner, I certainly don't think I am evil for employing people, trying to pay them as much as I can, and make a profit. While producing quality services to my clients.

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Sorry tongue in cheek, the "Left" sees businesses and "Wall street" as the enemy. I see them as the Lifeblood of our economy.

As to your second part about paying employees as much as possible......I'll take you at your word

IMO, the "Normal" business cycle works like this.


High unemployment, weak businesses go bankrupt, wages fall;

Business inventories fall over several months;

Businesses start to replenish inventories with CHEAPER labor, and more spending by these new workers starts the cycle expanding;

Business OWNERS ( stockholders) and top managers, start to make good profits start to expand by hiring more CHEAP labor;

PROFITS skyrocket, and businesses are "forced" to pay more for labor as we reach full employment;

LABOR costs escalate as businesses attempt to keep good workers, and PROFITS peak and then drop;

At this point business normally over expands and inventories grow far in excess of demand. Management starts will small layoffs and product sales.

Sales can't keep up with costs and those inventories won't go away. No need for workers so unemployment rises.

NEXT CYCLE!

IMO, businesses pay what they are FORCED to pay for labor. A business is there to make Capital, not for altruistic purposes. If you chooses to pay much more for labor than another worker would charge you, then you are a nice guy.... and probably a small business.

Large businesses MUST try to keep costs low. The business, and ultimately the Shareholders must be the main concern of management.
Labor( the workforce) is an expense that rises and falls as the economy expands and contracts!

edge.

PS What we have right now is NOT NORMAL! The huge influx of Illegals ( willing to work for very cheap wages ), are holding down the cost of low end labor.
If low end wage inflation does not take place, then the next higher rung of workers can't demand higher wages either!

IMO, this is the main reason that Congress acted to raise the "Minimum Wage" in the middle of the business cycle. There should have been no need for that, BUT management and shareholders were reaping huge rewards and were not FORCED to pay more for labor because there is no shortage!

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Old 03-15-2008, 10:07 AM
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There is nothing wrong with profit. 5% unemployment is a labor shortage. The 5% left overs either don't want to work or are not capable. The only thing left is to steal employees from competing companys, or countries.

It amazes me how people think big corporations are bad because they make money. This mentallity makes it easy to pass legislation to raise taxes on these buisineses. (Yeah, get those evil corporit pigs, make them pay their share.) How stupid can people be. No company, tiny like mine, or huge, just eats a tax increase. It gets added into the cost of doing buisiness. Thus whatever product is produced goes up in price. If the cost of doing buisiness goes up too much, then companys look elsewhere for location, and employees. In the end 'joe six-pack', you and me pay for the "evil corp." mentallity.

Big buisiness can not be lived with out. They produce, they don't take.
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:32 AM
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Nice thought Steve, but one thing that bill gates said no long ago that got me going was this: I hardly pay any taxes as there is so many write off's in my position, the system is backwards. That was a direct quote. Don't get me wrong I agree with your thoughts. However some of these giants and there ceo's aren't paying enough taxes and I'm paying too much

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Old 03-15-2008, 04:45 PM
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Nice thought Steve, but one thing that bill gates said no long ago that got me going was this: I hardly pay any taxes as there is so many write off's in my position, the system is backwards. That was a direct quote. Don't get me wrong I agree with your thoughts. However some of these giants and there ceo's aren't paying enough taxes and I'm paying too much

I love the "RICH LIARS"! Bill Clinton complaining that "He, rich" folks were not asked to pay higher taxes for the war!

Lies, Lies, and damn lies!

There is absolutely no law that prevents Bill Gates or Bill Clinton from sending every last penny they own to the Treasury! If they really meant it then they would gift away 100% of their wealth, be broke and go back working for a living!

The top 10% wage earners pay over 50% of the income taxes, and the bottom 50% of wage earners pay less than 5%! That does not seem to be that out of kilter to me.

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Old 03-15-2008, 07:38 PM
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How much money should a person be "allowed" to make, before they are required to give it up for the people who are not as "lucky or fortunate"? As if people who are "rich" never worked. As if they never spend money. When they buy houses, autos, boats, you name it. Do people get paid for producing the products they buy? Do people get paid that work for the companys that produce these products and services? Do the companys and their employees that recieve payment from these terrible rich people pay taxes on the money they make?

The fact is our economy can not function with out the rich.

Lets say one of you comes up with a product in the gun industry that makes you wealthy. Your idea winds up employing people and adding to the economy. How much of your money that you earned do you think you should give up to the government to redistribute to the people who did not earn it?
I can only assume that nobody hear is a socialist. So how far towards socialism do you think we should go?

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Old 03-15-2008, 08:11 PM
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As long as politicians keep offering "free" things to voters the vig will keep going up!

The "Left" keeps portraying people that have worked hard and make a living as RICH! Class envy is what Hillary and Barack are peddling!

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