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Old 06-15-2004, 06:00 AM
 
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Jim, Scouten... is this the guy that on TV that always has the neatly pressed shirts and jeans.... I think he's on espn...if this is the guy I think he is... man... I wouldn't worry about what he says, thinks or feels.... all he is doing is spitting out the PC verbage that the networks and manufactures are telling him to spit out... not worth the time or energy to argue...

I have yet to hit the elusive hoof... although there isn't a spot in Boone and Crocket yet.. this is due to actual low number of recorded kills on hooves but I bet you need at least a 5" width or 6" length... and mass... well.. I really have no way to field score that one yet... I lost alot of good clients that way.. not being able to field score hooves...
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Old 06-15-2004, 06:38 PM
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If this discussion is about the same guy I think it is (dark hair, dark aviator glasses, deep voice)I would have to say that he seems to know as much about guns as New Yorks congressman Chuck Schumer. Something I have noticed about gun handlers I have also noticed about smokers. The people that have never held these items on a regular basis are apparent to those of us who do. Watching an actor hold a cigarette and the pack of smokes and a lighter all at the same time is comical. Watching this "gun show host" is like watching my 2 year old handle a spoon full of spaghetti.

What he says about anything gun related is scripted and he should thank his lucky stars that real shooters watch him at all.

As for the gun counter professionals (from either side of the counter) I have also heard the boasting. Just read my signature line.

That man I am quoting was 400 lbs if he weighed an ounce and stood about 5'6". He was wheezing so hard from his walk across the store to me that I thought he was going to pass out. He couldnt hold a rifle steady enough for an offhand shot at a docked battleship.

When I showed him the drops on a 30-06 at 1k (zeroed @ 500)he told me that the published data in the remington ammo catalog was a flat out lie. How could the drop at 1k be about 30 something feet? After all, he "shot a ton of deer at ranges like that".

I almost said "prove it" but as an employee of the sporting goods store that was not my place.
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Old 06-16-2004, 01:39 AM
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The .300 Win Mag ammo that I was using while in the service carried a 190 Sierra MK at 1,550 fps at 1,000 yards. I would imagine that any .38 Special would be more than proud to have so much energy at the muzzle (then it "blew-up" from the heavy "proof" load).

So much for exterior balistics. By the way, when is the last time anyone has heard of a 190 grain .38 Special cartridge launching such a bullet to 1,550 fps from the muzzle? Never, I think.

The .300 Win Mag can perform this way as the bullet crosses the 1,000 yard pits (given non-arctic cold conditions), with a very healthy "crack" in the air.

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Old 06-16-2004, 08:18 PM
 
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if only you could see the smile on my face
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Old 06-21-2004, 03:57 PM
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JordanM,
And what sort of smile do you wear?

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Old 06-21-2004, 07:39 PM
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I was just scanning through an article in July's issue of Petersen's Hunting by Craig Boddington, "Seven Habits of Highly Successful Hunters" when I came across the section titled "Field Shooting Skill" where he discusses at what distance a shot is ethical and was happily surprised. What Boddington says is that "an ethical shot is a shot that you know, based on practice, experience and self-knowledge, you can place in the vital zone of the game that you are shooting at. You must keep your field shooting within your capabilities...." As much as I have read in magazines over the years, I cannot remember anyone else saying something like this, usually it is just the opposite. Hats off to Mr. Boddington for having the cojones to say this.
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Old 06-23-2004, 06:42 AM
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gone hunting again, i have read a few shooting magazines, only australian ones and the only sort of firld shooting advice i can find is very similar to that of Mr Boddington. I am somewhat surprised that people would give advice which is very dissimilar to that.
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