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Unread 06-11-2004, 07:33 PM
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read this , it upset me

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Thousand Yard Kill Shot with a Ruger?

My friend recently purchased a Ruger M77 300 win. mag.. He is trying to tell us he can make a clean kill on a mature bull elk at 1,000 yds. I think he is thinking way to much of his gun. If a shot like that is possible what size of rifle would it take to accomplish this. Thanks for your time and I'll hope to hear back from you. Jarrod

The bullet will fly that far. And there are target games that require shooting 1,000 yards. But! No ethical sportsman would attempt a thousand yard shot on any animal! The probability of missing is too great and the chance of a follow up shot too remote. And the target energy at that distance is down to about that of a 38 special. If your friend managed to hit an Elk at that range, he's more likely to hit a hoof than a clean kill shot. The bullet drop is about four times the height of an elk. Wind conditions, too unknown to lob a round that distance and risk wounding an animal.

If you had some reason to actually try this, other than lazy hunting, you'd need one of the rifles from Barrett or McMillan chambering the 50 caliber BMG (Browning Machine Gun) round.

Nothing wrong with being proud of the capabilities of the Ruger, but let's not try to convert that pride to unethical hunting shots.

here is the website... http://www.shootingusa.com/GUN_QUEST...estions.html#2

was looking into the new show... dont know if want to watch it now... what is every one's thoughts...

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Unread 06-11-2004, 08:08 PM
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Awful easy to get caught up in a ******* match about a subject like this and honestly the best thing to do is walk away from it. Shake your head in disgust at how un-educated and narrow minded most people are.
And then come over here and appreciate the guys on this board....
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Unread 06-11-2004, 08:44 PM
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Well put Chris...

[ 06-11-2004: Message edited by: meichele ]
Long range shooting is a process that ends with a result. Once you start to focus on the result (how bad your last shot was, how big the group is going to be, what your buck will score, what your match score is, what place you are in...) then you loose the capacity to focus on the process.
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Unread 06-12-2004, 09:56 AM
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"more likely to hit a hoof than a clean kill shot".

Typical, not letting facts getting in the way of an emotional outburst. The kill area in a mature elk is (conservatively) about the size of a medium pizza pan, say about 14" diameter. Yielding about 167 square inches.

The hooves are about the size of a horse's hooves, about 10 square inches (vertically oriented as they would be when animal is standing), or 40 square inches total for a four-legged beast.

So, there's a 4x greater chance of hitting the kill area as hitting a hoof. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Unread 06-12-2004, 01:16 PM
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Why get upset?
think of the fun you could have asking this guy some other questions [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Unread 06-12-2004, 01:30 PM
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You are right. No sense getting all wound up over opinions. Seen too much of it to wory about what other folks think about!!
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Unread 06-12-2004, 05:19 PM
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I met one of those boastful guys in the neighborhood gunshop the other day. He was telling everyone he "regularely" kills groundhogs at 1,000yds+ with his 25-06.
When I asked him what type of rangefinder he had been using, he looked at me like I had two heads and said that he and his buddies don't need them. I probably should have known that.

Man, those guys are GOOD! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]


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