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Progress in the public arena of long range hunting ethics discussion!

 
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Old 06-17-2010, 07:42 AM
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Re: Progress in the public arena of long range hunting ethics discussion!

BB, covered some excellent points. Let's hope there's a spill over that reduces the number of anti-gunners and regs too. Thanks BB well said.
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:44 PM
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Re: Progress in the public arena of long range hunting ethics discussion!

"dont tell my wife"

The guy sure was funny
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:39 PM
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Re: Progress in the public arena of long range hunting ethics discussion!

Actually I have some old high OD socks on - from when I was in Scouts (well more than forty years ago!!)
Does one have to join the Deer site to post a reply to their comments??

and why do you speak against the use of Scope for ranging (realizing it is not a precise as a good rangefinder) ... I used my loopy for my 700+ antelope as my rangefinder would not work in the bright, reflective light of the landscape ... (Leica) ... 1 shot 1 kill -- exactly where I wanted to place it -- full value Crosswind -- yes I practice at those distances .. and "The Wind is my Friend" {mantra I am working On"

have a good Father's DAy weekend ... LRB
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:56 PM
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Re: Progress in the public arena of long range hunting ethics discussion!

LRB, I assume so but don't know for sure if you must register over there.

As to ranging with a scope reticle, that shot was at 1,000 yards. At 1,000 yards, how do you think the ranging accuracy result is affected if the 14 inch deer chest is one inch more or less high? Do you think that shooter team was able to discern the exact chest height of that deer before pulling the trigger?

It would seem to me the math on one inch would be something like:

1/14 x 1,000 yards = 70 yards plus or minus potential error in ranging.

With my super flat shooting 7mm Dakota that would result in plus OR minus 7 inches of drop error at 1,000 yards.

I like the reticle ranging concept as a tech failure backup and I need to practice it with my Huskemaw scopes. But its effectiveness is probably limited to 4 or 5 hundred yards max with any degree of first-shot kill accuracy for most people - including especially me.
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:25 PM
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Re: Progress in the public arena of long range hunting ethics discussion!

Thnx for your reply ....
Point well taken; made me reflect back on the Antelope where I repeatedly checked size of Buck's chest against my "mildots and crosshairs" such that one location was 700 yds and the other was 800 -- and he was moving back and forth ... between the two distances -- but then I had lots of time to wait -- as with the wind -- I had to wait for him to be on the complete other side of the herd -- such that if the wind failed I would miss all of them, and not hit an unwanted doe!!!{As I would have risked had I taken the shot when he was on the otherside of the herd -- had the wind abated!! Well the wind stayed strong and shot placement was spot on ...

With this particular scope I am limited to 800 yd. max. (sight in for main crosshair is 300 yds. exact -- with dots at 4, 5, 6, 7, & 800 yds. respectively // I have mildots horizontally and mildots and a fine crosshair 1 mil above the main horizontal for ranging and windage) -- I have shot boxes at 830 yds consistantly hitting the small metal plate -- just adjusting for windage over a bipod ... so I was ready and comfortably confident

I take your point with what would be the size of the critter's chest at 1000 -- and if one assumed 18" chest for a really big buck and in actuality it was 14" (or even 16") cause he had good headgear and was assumed bigger than reality -- 2" off increasing over a thousand yards could make him all the more difficult for a fatal hit ...
Further to the video ... I think I would have preferred the slow walk of a contented deer than one standing still that could move at anytime ... thanx again, LRB
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