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Unread 03-07-2008, 12:39 PM
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In talking with John in the past I believe he makes all his own rifles but I may be mistaken. Last I heard he used a 7mm STW with either Barnes or Berger bullets in the rifles in those videos. I may be wrong but I believe that was the case.

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Unread 04-04-2008, 02:57 AM
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I just logged on for my first time, I have spoken to John Burns several times, however its been 4 years ago, the rifle he used was of course but
by himself, it was a 7mmstw, at topped with a 4.5 x 14 x 50 Leupold,
and Keyton Industries custom made the knobs per Johns request. If I
remember correctly he was using 140 Sirricco's. I spoke to him a couple times, about building me a rifle, and he was so busy getting TBOTW started and on its feet, he did not have time. Comically the way I found
him, was .. I had hunted in Wyoming, in 04 and took time to check my rifle, ironically I had set a the same bench that the shot most of the footage in Beyond Belief... after making a 707 yd shot on a good bull, and flying back to NC. I turned on the TV the next Sunday evening and fliped
thru the channels, TBOTW was airing. ( First time I had ever watched it)
Of course I was amazed when John started talking while setting beside
the exact bench where I had traveled 1500 plus miles...

As Ironically the producer of TBOTW lives within 30 miles of me, here
in NC.


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Unread 04-04-2008, 07:43 AM
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I too have also seen John's video's and was able to take several great tips from them that have helped me make some long range kills. At this time, I have not had the chance to really shot and animal further than 624 yards. I have shot steel to 1200, but know that shooting at a live animal in the wild can be completely different.

I think rifleman such as John and the others on this website bring a great deal of information to many of us that did not have the experience needed when we first started off in the sport. I for one like to examine each experienced longrange shooter and get what works best for me and use it to my advantage. It is just my humble opinion that I can just about learn something from every experienced shooter here. I me John at this years SCI and he is a great guy!
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Unread 04-04-2008, 09:29 AM
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In one of his videos I watched several years ago, john used a 7mm WRP, he said it was a 7 STW with throating changes, a 4.5x14 loopy with a m1 elev. knob w/ custom BDC, and a custom reticle for windage hold off.
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