Long Range Hunting Online Magazine


Go Back   Long Range Hunting Online Magazine > Chatting and General Stuff > General Discussion

General Discussion Must wear red or OD green socks to participate. I can't see your socks, please be honest.


Reply

Odd fouling problem

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-15-2005, 06:51 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 2,133
Odd fouling problem

I'm working with a new 6.5x284 rifle. Rifle has a Lilja SS barrel with a Vais brake. I always remove the brake and soak it in SC/Kroil while cleaning the barrel. The face of the barrel, which is exposed without the brake in place, is fouled with a black carbon like substance that seems impervious to the SC/Kroil. A stiff plastic brushing with solvent does nothing.

Anyone else have this problem? How would you suggest removing it without damaging the crown?

If it makes any difference, I'm shooting 49gr H4350 and clean every 20-25 rounds.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-15-2005, 07:06 PM
SPONSOR
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: El Reno, OK
Posts: 1,930
Re: Odd fouling problem

I've noticed the same fouling on my .243, which has a Holland brake. I just got the brake put on it and plan on cleaning it for the first time this weekend. I'll let you know if it comes off easily.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-15-2005, 09:25 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 419
Re: Odd fouling problem

Some of it will come off with a bronze brush. You can also try buying a 'fly line cleaning pad'. It is a pad for fly fishing line with an extremely fine abrasive on it.
The same type of carbon that you are describing occurs on the front of my 44 mag's cylinder. The fly line cleaning pad takes most of it off. There is also a spray available (Carter's Compensator Spray) that you can put on the brake and the crown that keeps the carbon from sticking.
__________________
I keep nature balanced - I hunt everything!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-15-2005, 09:41 PM
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: N.C
Posts: 540
Re: Odd fouling problem

I clean my Holland brake and crown with some swabs a friend has (where he got them I don't know and I don't think he remembers).
I put some barnes CR10 on the swabs and it cleans right up but still has a slight discoloration ( not as pretty as when new ) but thats it. The powder fouling and whatever else is gone. These swabs are not cotton but some type of sponge deal that soaks up just the right amount of barnes for the job.
__________________
Guns and ammo, what more do we need?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-15-2005, 11:25 PM
Official LRH Sponsor
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Fort Shaw, Montana
Posts: 6,822
Re: Odd fouling problem

Get some Butches Bore Shine. It eats powder fouling very well. Get enough to put in a cup to soak your break. Can do this until its clean. For the crown, I soak a heavy shop towel and work the crown until its clean.

One thing you may want to try is a product called Break Saver. This is used mainly for the 50 BMG rifles to help limit carbon build up on the brakes from burning 215 to 230 gr of powder at relatively low pressures.

Brownells used to carry this but do not know if they still do.

There are two types I have seen, a light jell and a spray. Once the brake is totally clean you apply this product by either wiping it on for the jell or spraying it on. IT helps prevent the fouling being able to attach to the brake surface.

To be honest, this is a fact of life to some degree with a muzzle brake so you can only try to control it as much as possible.

Kirby Allen(50)
__________________
Kirby Allen(50)

Allen Precision Shooting
Home of the Allen Magnum, Allen Xpress and Allen Tactical Wildcats and the Painkiller Muzzle brakes.

Farther, Faster and Flatter then ever before.

Web Page: www.apsrifles.com

allenmagnum@gmail.com
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-18-2005, 09:54 PM
SPONSOR
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: El Reno, OK
Posts: 1,930
Re: Odd fouling problem

Just cleaned my .243 with the Holland. Crown was NASTY!! I just took of the brake and soaked it like Kirby said. I then sprayed some Hoppe's Elite on the crown and let it soak while cleaning the bore.

While I let the solvent set, I would take a nylon brush and scrub on the crown. I was also able to flake some off with my fingernail. It was kind of a pain in the you know what, but it came clean.

Now the whole rig is shining, hoping the wind dies down one evening this week so she can try to lob one into an unsuspecting pd @ about 1500 yds!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-19-2005, 01:08 AM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: GF Montana
Posts: 467
Re: Odd fouling problem

[ QUOTE ]
One thing you may want to try is a product called Break Saver. This is used mainly for the 50 BMG rifles to help limit carbon build up on the brakes from burning 215 to 230 gr of powder at relatively low pressures.

...
There are two types I have seen, a light jell and a spray. Once the brake is totally clean you apply this product by either wiping it on for the jell or spraying it on. IT helps prevent the fouling being able to attach to the brake surface.


[/ QUOTE ]

Arizona Ammunition carries it: <ul type="square">[*] (623) 516-9004[*] FAX (623) 516-9012 [/list]
Great Post Kirby - thx for the help.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads for: Odd fouling problem
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Chamber problem or ammo problem? Topshot Rifles, Bullets, Barrels and Ballistics 5 06-09-2010 08:14 PM
Fouling Geno22 Reloading 12 02-16-2010 09:34 AM
Barrel fouling? tomme_boy Rifles, Bullets, Barrels and Ballistics 4 08-07-2006 04:16 PM
copper fouling in new gun The Syndicate Rifles, Bullets, Barrels and Ballistics 9 12-19-2004 02:25 PM
copper fouling in new gun The Syndicate Equipment Discussions 0 12-16-2004 12:48 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Management Powered by vBadvanced CMPS
All content ©2010-2014 Long Range Hunting, LLC