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02-25-2013, 01:58 PM
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Re: Nobody seems to believe me...
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Originally Posted by jkupper
It's about half and half where I live. Many hunters around here are proficient out to 400 yards, so they can understand that with practice and the correct equipment an 800-1000 yard shot is feasible. The other half believe it is unethical to take game past 200 yards. I have found that most of these guys shoot once a year, when they make sure their deer rifle is sighted in, and a 4" group at 100 yards is good enough for them. I think a lot of people just do not understand the accuracy that a rifle can accomplish, even at extended range. I took my wife out hunting one day and there was a coyote looking at us from 600 yards on the dot. I put the gun on him, and she laughed, believing that I couldn't hit him. She was impressed when he crumpled to the ground. My dad on the other hand doesn't even question me when I try to take one at 400 yards or more. For some people seeing is believing.
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Yes exactly! It's like people are stuck in the rut of "300 yards is too far." Which is true when they don't understand that a rifle can shoot WAY tighter than 4" @ 100 yards. Just takes few tricks, time and practice.
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02-25-2013, 02:43 PM
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Re: Nobody seems to believe me...
You have to remember that most hunters are shooting cheap, neglected rifles with $100 Wal-Mart scopes. Bad equipment combined with one or two shooting sessions from a lead sled the week before hunting season does make long range hunting impossible for them.
These non believers are also the ones that have "one hole" rifles but can't hit a pie plate at 100 yards from a bench rest.
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02-25-2013, 04:23 PM
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Re: Nobody seems to believe me...
Seen that from alot of guys. If they can hit a paper plate at 100yds, its good enough. Half of these 1/4 minute of paper plate guys are also the ones that say longrange hunting is unethical...hmm, let's think about that for a moment shall we.
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02-25-2013, 06:12 PM
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Re: Nobody seems to believe me...
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Originally Posted by Franklin
Seen that from alot of guys. If they can hit a paper plate at 100yds, its good enough. Half of these 1/4 minute of paper plate guys are also the ones that say longrange hunting is unethical...hmm, let's think about that for a moment shall we.
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That is a great point and definitely plays into some of the disbelief in LR shooting. I would also argue that some of the "wild internet claims" tend to reduce the credibility of us all. It always amazes me that guys are selling their 1 in a million factory rifle, less than 50 down the tube, that throws out consistent 3/8" 5-shot groups at 200 yds. Well, at least 10 consistent 5 round groups . . . Oh, and that Barska on top with the spring rings is available for an additional $85 if you want it.
Bottom line - people lie a lot, and we all get lumped in. Take 'em out and show 'em how to ring the gong! Argument over. And maybe you'll give someone the bug . . .
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02-25-2013, 08:36 PM
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Re: Nobody seems to believe me...
I'm new to shooting long range. When I tell people that put a gong up at 250yards, ask what I am shooting and I tell them sav. Striker specialty pistol, they say oh really? But you can see it in their eyes that they don't really believe you. Then you tell them I "I hope to make it out to 1000yds. some day" you can really see it then. I send them to xphunters posts. I don't know if any have gone yet. I hope so!
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02-25-2013, 09:17 PM
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Re: Nobody seems to believe me...
After 26 1/2 years in the Canadian Military ( Infantry) I find that most people don't understand the basic Principals of Marksmanship, let alone what it takes to shoot accuratly at long ranges. When you have Dad's old 30-30 that he's almost shot out before you got it, it's hard to fathom a long shot. After all, it's got to be a good rifle, Dad used it for years and always got his deer.
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02-25-2013, 11:36 PM
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Re: Nobody seems to believe me...
With good equipment and good knowledge you can coach a relative novice into a 400 yard shots. I did it with my daughter last year, and she ended up taking a doe at 422, now she is hooked on LRH  Don't bring it up to anyone who doesn't practice past 200, otherwise it is an exercise in futility.
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