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Which Muzzleloader is best for the money??

 
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Old 01-07-2006, 09:40 PM
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Which Muzzleloader is best for the money??

Hi; I'll be new to the Muzzleloader seen by next deer season and have no idea of which one is the best for the money. I'll be using it for White tail deer mainly. I want one that is pretty accurate and reliable.
Please share any wisdom in this subject and any other helpful fourms on this subject. Thanks
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:00 PM
 
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Re: Which Muzzleloader is best for the money??

Thompson Center Omega and the Knight Disc rifles are both good. Stay away from CVA's or other cheapies. Heard some bad things concerning safety.

In smokeless, the savage ML II is getting great reviews and there are others making smokeless poles.

I'm getting into smokeless ML, I'm having one built now.

I'll post results when I get it.

Whatever you get don't go less than 50 caliber.

If I was buying a new ML and I wasn't going smokeless, then I'd buy a TC Omega. I bought a 45 cal knight disc and Its a bit picky with loads.

Your going to find out real quick that picking the muzzleloader is just the tip of the iceberg. You'll be testing different bullet-powder combinations many of them highly corrosive and you have to clean every night after you've shot and swab the barrel after each shot. It can be a pain.

My philosophy is that if your going to shoot an in-line and you want as close to centerfire performance your get then go smokeless. Clean it like a centerfire too.

Good Luck
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Old 01-08-2006, 06:55 AM
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Re: Which Muzzleloader is best for the money??

Omega 50 cal. with three Triple 7 pellets behind a 300 gr. Barnes equals dead deer at 200 yards. It is also a very easy to clean rifle,partically with the Triple 7. I also weigh each pellet and seperate them for better accuracy.
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Old 01-08-2006, 07:01 AM
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Re: Which Muzzleloader is best for the money??

Savage ML II. You can shoot smokeless powder and get net 270 performance.

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Old 01-08-2006, 07:14 AM
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Re: Which Muzzleloader is best for the money??

Thanks for the feedback on the subject. It is true....I don't know yet what I'm getting into. I like the sound of the smokeless type, I prefer to go into this with the most user friendly set-up I can buy. Also if anyone knows the best place to buy one of the better muzzleloaders, please share that information too. Thanks so far for the help!!
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:02 AM
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Re: Which Muzzleloader is best for the money??

I once had 38 in-line muzzleloaders in my basement, did extensive reviews and testing for a book on the in-line. Considerations are accuracy, simplicity and quality when looking at muzzleloaders. The fewer parts the better since there is a lot of combustion residue to deal with. Smokeless has less residue and it is non-caustic which is obviously why many guys like it. With most charges the actual velocities attainable are not much different between smokeless and black powder substitutes. One consideration might be that with one simple wording change, the use of smokeless powder in muzzleloaders can be outlawed very easily (no nitro-celulose) if legislatures decide they are too far from the original concept of muzzleloading.
.. hard to beat pellets for consistency, accuracy and ease of loading
.. loose powder (BP, substitutes or smokeless) require a measuring device, not so with pellets
.. smokeless requires a powder scale and speed loaders, not as simple as dropping two or three pellets down the bore
.. rule of thumb, U.S. made barrels are usually more consistent than off-shore barrels. Off-shore barrels can shoot great, but more loose/tight dimesions in bores than T/C or Green Mtn (Knight) barrels.

T/C Omega and Encore are the leaders right now, being copied by others big time. Knight's new rifles are not like we used to get from Knight when they lead the field. Disc rifles are getting pretty long in the tooth.

New stuff to come, might be wise to wait a while before making decision - trust me, worth waiting a while.
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:24 AM
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Re: Which Muzzleloader is best for the money??

Smokeless is legal in most states and if you want to you can shoot pellets or loose Pyrodex. Hard to beat that combination.

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